How big are VM's infills?
02-01-2016, 13:06
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Think Leicester Villages is about half done now. It's RFoG.
The Leeds project continues, Middleton and Belle Isle / LS10 build is about complete. There are 10 items of work currently left, most of which complete in a fortnight, another couple in 4 weeks and the last and largest street in mid-February.
Some in-fill going on around the city for right now, odd streets in Beeston and other places, pending the next phase of the larger build.
Having been potentially the single person most responsible for the 'damage' I remain without cable for a few unfortunate reasons. That's life
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05-01-2016, 09:53
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Is there any information as to which areas are planned to be included in Project Lightning or is it a case of waiting to see if VM registers work on roadworks.org?
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05-01-2016, 13:28
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
While there are some bigger areas where local authorities are getting involved in the expansion, a lot of it is down to customer demand being shown. The new areas also have to be close to existing VM infrastructure.
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05-01-2016, 13:58
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Originally Posted by TheLastMinute
Is there any information as to which areas are planned to be included in Project Lightning or is it a case of waiting to see if VM registers work on roadworks.org?
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VM announce larger bits of work, though the announcements seem to be made when they are part way through them.
VM know what they are going be building and roughly when. I'm aware of a few larger builds that haven't been announced to the public, however I'm not discussing them on here.
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07-01-2016, 00:21
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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VM announce larger bits of work, though the announcements seem to be made when they are part way through them.
VM know what they are going be building and roughly when. I'm aware of a few larger builds that haven't been announced to the public, however I'm not discussing them on here.
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They really should communicate with potential new customers!
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/141...their_doorstep
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07-01-2016, 00:58
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Yep! That sounds really, really bad!
"Councillor Mike Badcock, who represents Caldecott, said at least three residents had contacted him with complaints."
Perhaps they hadn't paid attention?
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07-01-2016, 09:23
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Strangely they managed to build to nearly 10,000 premises here over the course of 7 months operating on the same statutory notices without a newspaper article listing complaints.
There were certainly complaints to local councillors and a bunch of issues, as you'd expect from a construction project of any size, and where Virgin messed up the construction defects were resolved. I'm aware of some of them given I'm kinda to blame for it all
I'm not aware of anyone doing what are minor street works like these informing residents in advance. They don't need the residents' permission, they don't need to 'consult' on minor projects like this and are well within their rights to start at 8am.
I have no idea about the access issues beyond to say that there were issues here, however they were kept to a minimum through opening barriers on demand and using covers to permit access to and from properties, and regarding the rubble, yes, it was kept near properties, but on public land. If the parking spaces are private property the residents have a point, however the story implies they are not.
Given that this estate of less than 300 properties has managed to produce more public complaints in 3 days than ~10,000 premises here over 7 months, and this build includes considerably more new build than Caldecott Chase, I'd suggest that it's not Virgin Media that have the biggest issues in this instance.
I did get a chuckle out of the woman claiming that the residents there are quite 'tolerable' and complaining about Virgin 'bowling' up, though.
That or the best she can say about that estate is that the people there are 'tolerable'. In which case, well...
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07-01-2016, 09:52
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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I agree that a bit of communication from VM would seem to be a bit of a obvious thing to do. It let's people know there's going to be disruption and also what the benefits are going to be. That said, as we're talking about a new build estate in Abingdon, I suspect that whatever VM did, the residents would still complain!
Speaking for myself, living on a new build estate where the rest of the village has cable, I'd imagine that we must be prime candidates to be included in Project Lightning. Why can't they just tell us if there is chance we'll get cable like they do with our BDUK project? I'd rather know now than find out that VM are about to arrive just after agreeing a 24 month contract with a OpenReach based ISP.
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07-01-2016, 10:22
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Why can't they just tell us if there is chance we'll get cable like they do with our BDUK project?
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They're hedging their bets. Until an area has been planned they can't really comment with certainty. BDUK was for the most part far easier as it was nearly all fibre to cabinets.
Once an area has been planned people who have pre-registered receive emails. In theory.
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Register your interest - Be sure to ask your neighbours because the more people who register an interest, the more likely it’ll be that we’ll cable your street!
To the drawing bord - Once an area has enough interest, we'll get busy planning where the new fibre optic cables will go and making sure we have the right planning permissions.
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Testing, testing - Once the cables have been laid, we'll carry out lots of tests to make sure the new cables work and everyone in your area will have access to all our services.
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07-01-2016, 11:20
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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They're hedging their bets. Until an area has been planned they can't really comment with certainty. BDUK was for the most part far easier as it was nearly all fibre to cabinets.
Once an area has been planned people who have pre-registered receive emails. In theory.
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As I haven't heard anything, I'd assume there's nothing happening in the foreseeable future. :-(
I suppose I could start a campaign to get people on our estate signed up to the Cable My Street page. I thought I read somewhere that VM were going to put together a campaign pack. Has anyone come across any such thing?
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07-01-2016, 14:11
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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As I haven't heard anything, I'd assume there's nothing happening in the foreseeable future. :-(
I suppose I could start a campaign to get people on our estate signed up to the Cable My Street page. I thought I read somewhere that VM were going to put together a campaign pack. Has anyone come across any such thing?
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Come across it, received it, distributed fliers, have the cheesy badges and a lanyard.
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Originally Posted by TheLastMinute
As I haven't heard anything, I'd assume there's nothing happening in the foreseeable future. :-(
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Have your roads been adopted by the council yet? VM probably won't plan it until they are.
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07-01-2016, 14:32
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Come across it, received it, distributed fliers, have the cheesy badges and a lanyard.
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Ahh! Do you have a link perchance please?
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Have your roads been adopted by the council yet? VM probably won't plan it until they are.
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Yes certainly, back in 2014 I think it was.
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07-01-2016, 15:34
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Ahh! Do you have a link perchance please?
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I just went back and I can see that they aren't actually ready for widespread use just yet. I must've received some kind of 'ad hoc' thing. Should be good to go soon reading the website.
I have a penchant for pulling strings and bending ears.
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08-01-2016, 09:25
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Originally Posted by TheLastMinute
I agree that a bit of communication from VM would seem to be a bit of a obvious thing to do. It let's people know there's going to be disruption and also what the benefits are going to be. That said, as we're talking about a new build estate in Abingdon, I suspect that whatever VM did, the residents would still complain!
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This case is quite interesting to me. They were digging right outside people's windows with no notification, and parking on their drives! I wouldn't be best pleased either.
It does seem unusual that the drives are council property also, I live on a new build estate and the drives in front of the houses are definitely our property. Though we do also have a pavement in front of the driveways. Which the houses in the pictures in that article don't. Imagine if a company suddenly arrived and started digging up what you thought was your driveway one morning.
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16-01-2016, 17:13
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Well none of that is happening here - the council won't allow VM to dig the newer build even when it's public it seems unless they full-width reinstate afterwards which makes the enterprise way too expensive.
With that the Middleton build is complete - about 1,300 properties short of the entire ward but as was originally expected.
It's likely that by the time it becomes possible to construct without having to do full-width reinstatement VM won't be interested due to cost anyway. They were planning on breaking the bank and there will be way easier fish to fry.
I loathe the telecomms farce that is this estate.
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