TiVo Sky Q and VM answer ? - Page 2

muppetman11 · 04-01-2016, 19:21

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Originally Posted by passingbat

But we don't know what the new Tivo box will be like. I would be surprised if it was just a Roamio with bigger drives and more tuners. The Roamio was a top of the range PVR two and a half years ago, and the new box is classed as an enthusiasts box. I know your loyalty to Sky wants the new Q box to be the best, and it may well be so. But I fail to see how you can be sure of that until the new US Tivo is revealed. That's when I will make a judgement.

And of course, it's not certain that VM will actually release a new box this year, and if they do, which Tivo software will they base it on?

Sorry mate I've just spat my coffee out laughing , loyalty I'm not sure Sky retentions would agree. There's only one reason I'm still with Sky and its discount although to be fair I've generally had a good customer experience in my time with them. I personally don't want any one supplier to have a upper hand healthy competition benefits all my comparison was merely you stating a 6 tuner TiVo on the horizon.

I do see a future where the one master box records and other rooms have small wireless slave boxes with no HDD its been like this for a while in the States.

I'll openly admit it I think SkyQ is a bold move and one that will have plenty of future innovation it will however no doubt cost the earth like most things Sky venture into.

passingbat · 04-01-2016, 19:43

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

I'll openly admit it I think SkyQ is a bold move .

I definitely agree with you on that, and it has set the standard that other UK providers will have to at least match with any forthcoming boxes.
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jb66 · 04-01-2016, 19:44

Paying for tv... no thanks

passingbat · 04-01-2016, 19:55

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Originally Posted by jb66

Paying for tv... no thanks

So how do you obtain your TV shows? Do you just stick to Freview channels?

jb66 · 04-01-2016, 19:56

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Originally Posted by passingbat

So how do you obtain your TV shows? Do you just stick to Freview channels?

Ive got a freesat box, I dont miss all the american junk and repeats on discovery and sky 1

passingbat · 04-01-2016, 20:00

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Originally Posted by jb66

Ive got a freesat box, I dont miss all the american junk and repeats on discovery and sky 1

Many (a majority probably) do the same as you and just use either Freesat or Freeview

**Hugh** · 04-01-2016, 21:04

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Many (a majority probably) do the same as you and just use either Freesat or Freeview

The UK has 26.7 million households, and Sky has 12 million TV customers, VM has around 4 million, and BT around 1.3 million, adding up to 17.3 million, making around 2/3rds of households using Sky/VM/BT.

passingbat · 04-01-2016, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Hugh

The UK has 26.7 million households, and Sky has 12 million TV customers, VM has around 4 million, and BT around 1.3 million, adding up to 17.3 million, making around 2/3rds of households using Sky/VM/BT.

I remembered after I posted that I'd checked figures a few years ago, and was surprised that was the case but couldn't' be bothered to check. After all, this thread isn't about Freview/Freesat PVRs.

r94yan · 05-01-2016, 09:22

Well if VM do launch a new box then that would be amazing. It will hopefully rival the Sky Q service which does look very good albeit at what i would assume an extreme premium.
I am especially intrigued by the use of the slave boxes that also double up as WiFi hubs, as we all know connection can always be an issue. Also the fact the salve boxes are free from cabling which means they can be moved around, another huge plus.

I would hope VM/ Tivo do attempt to rival Sky in this manner. If they manage to build something that combines the Romario and Bolt then that could be a huge Sky Q killer.

My only gripe will be that we all know it takes VM an age to release anything new, and there are always issues and delays, if they say this year it will be next. By which time Sky Q will likely be in full swing.

VM have the best & fastest internet they could really use this and integrate it better with Tv services like cloud storage of programs and more streaming to extra devices - Two is just not enough. I get the reason to lock it down so you can't share it with the whole world, but surely they could add a few extra devices and lock it to the house internet?

jonbxx · 05-01-2016, 09:41

Did anyone else get a huge long survey from VM a while back discussing hardware platforms? There were many questions about having extra tuners and the ability to view and download recorded programs to tablets/mobiles, etc.

Clearly VM are looking at things...

r94yan · 05-01-2016, 10:34

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Did anyone else get a huge long survey from VM a while back discussing hardware platforms? There were many questions about having extra tuners and the ability to view and download recorded programs to tablets/mobiles, etc.

Clearly VM are looking at things...

I did not get one, but I vaguely remember others mentioning this.

muppetman11 · 06-01-2016, 15:11

YouTube rival Vimeo in talks to join Sky Q

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...oin-Sky-Q.html

tweedle · 06-01-2016, 20:59

One Virginmedias problem is always going to be the fact one company makes the TiVo box, another supplies the TiVo software, and various company's provide the content. So producing a high end box cost effectively is never going to happen.

Sky design their own software, they manufacture their set top boxes, and they own/licence some of the most popular channels/content.

Chad · 06-01-2016, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Hugh

The UK has 26.7 million households, and Sky has 12 million TV customers, VM has around 4 million, and BT around 1.3 million, adding up to 17.3 million, making around 2/3rds of households using Sky/VM/BT.

Good point. Talk Talk have about 1.3 million TV customers too. Add them into the mix and your up to 18.6 million households with pay TV. That's 70% of UK households. I wonder how many of the remaining 30% have services like Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, NOW TV etc... ? UK is a pay TV nation

spiderplant · 06-01-2016, 21:41

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Originally Posted by tweedle

One Virginmedias problem is always going to be the fact one company makes the TiVo box, another supplies the TiVo software, and various company's provide the content. So producing a high end box cost effectively is never going to happen.

Producing hardware, software and content are three very different tasks. Going to the experts in each field is the way to get the best overall product.

In fact VM have two suppliers of the TiVo hardware (Cisco and Samsung). They have to compete against each other, so have a further incentive to produce the best product at the best price.