UK Soldiers May Face Iraq War Crime Charges

Arthurgray50@blu · 02-01-2016, 20:52

http://news.sky.com/story/1615421/uk...-crime-charges

Whoever comes out with the brainwaves. Need putting onto a boat and sinking it.

I have the highest for our brave guys and girls who fight for our country, they put there life on the ground to protect us, against enemies of this country.

When you join the Armed services, you go into battle. And then you find out something was wrong with your decision. And you get prosecuted.

Bang out of order. Our service personnel face danger, each day they leave there battle stations. They come across a terrorists, what are they suppose to do. Go and shake there hand, then decide what to do. By that decision time you end up dead.

Each time they leave there barracks in the UK. Personnel are warned not to wear there uniforms, in case it offends.

If this idea comes out, then Prime Minsters must be held accountable for it and face prosecution as well. As it is on there instructions that Service Personnel go into battle

alanbjames · 02-01-2016, 20:58

Speeding fines for tank drivers.

Stephen · 02-01-2016, 21:20

They are only doing a job, you can't prosecute them for that.

If anyone its the people in government that make the decision to send people in to these countries.

First time I think I've ever agreed with Arthur lol.

tweedle · 02-01-2016, 21:28

Its at times like this when you wish the pathetic silent majority of this amazing country would stand up and say NO!

It will happen,

Sirius · 02-01-2016, 21:35

Bet the tree hugging libs are loving this.

ianch99 · 02-01-2016, 22:37

What's all the fuss about? If they did their job as they were asked to do, there is not a problem.

TheDaddy · 03-01-2016, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://news.sky.com/story/1615421/uk...-crime-charges

Whoever comes out with the brainwaves. Need putting onto a boat and sinking it.

I have the highest for our brave guys and girls who fight for our country, they put there life on the ground to protect us, against enemies of this country.

When you join the Armed services, you go into battle. And then you find out something was wrong with your decision. And you get prosecuted.

Bang out of order. Our service personnel face danger, each day they leave there battle stations. They come across a terrorists, what are they suppose to do. Go and shake there hand, then decide what to do. By that decision time you end up dead.

Each time they leave there barracks in the UK. Personnel are warned not to wear there uniforms, in case it offends.

If this idea comes out, then Prime Minsters must be held accountable for it and face prosecution as well. As it is on there instructions that Service Personnel go into battle

Yeah bang out of order that torturers and murderers face prosecution. I don't know what you have the highest of for our brave guys and girls, you didn't actually say but I'm guessing it isn't regard if you want them having to associate and serve with these types of people.

Pierre · 03-01-2016, 05:44

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yeah bang out of order that torturers and murderers face

How do you know there are murderers and torturers when none have yet been charged, prosecuted or found guilty ?

TheDaddy · 03-01-2016, 07:45

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Originally Posted by Pierre

How do you know there are murderers and torturers when none have yet been charged, prosecuted or found guilty ?

I don't and wasn't aware I'd accused anyone. To simplify for anyone in doubt, imo any found to have committed crimes as serious as those mentioned should face prosecution.

techguyone · 03-01-2016, 08:59

Hope all the lefties are happy when they find out no one wants to be in the armed forces or indeed an armed policeman anymore, due to the very likely worry you will be prosecuted for doing your job.
Look at the police man who is being prosecuted now in London because TPB are trying to appease the ******s from rioting, or the paras from back in 71 who are now being prosecuted for the Bloody Sunday massacre, despite no one not really knowing for sure who did what, and despite the fact the entire Northern Irish terrorist community (who did many many worse things) all being pardoned.

These days I quite often wake up and think I'm on planet WTF

roughbeast · 03-01-2016, 10:02

There will be no problem if it turns out that Iraqi citizens who died under interrogation, like the hotel receptionist did, were killed legally and under the proper rules of engagement.

It is easy to excuse extreme brutality when troops are fighting for their lives and the lives of their comrades. Indeed troops are sometimes deliberately put into such circumstances to unleash their brutality against the enemy. Brutally kill or be brutally killed. We can even leave a little room for moral error in the heat of battle. However, there is no excuse for mortal violence against prisoners away from the actual battle. This breaks the rules of the Geneva Convention and makes us no better than the SS. Our standards must be of the highest order.

mrmistoffelees · 03-01-2016, 11:13

Follow the rules of engagement and there should be no problems
From the article I read yesterday it appears that there is currently evidence to suggest that murder and torture have taken place therefore investigation and if deemed fit trial/court martial should take place.

Just because the Iraqi regime/ISIL were/are complete *******s doesn't give us carte blanche to act as we see fit

All so easy to say when you're not in the thick of it though

Ignitionnet · 03-01-2016, 12:06

It's a fine line at times these people have to tread. I freely admit I couldn't tread it, so don't attempt to.

Rule of law, sadly, has to be followed. If we ignore it we have no moral grounds to object to anyone else doing it to our lads / ladettes.

**Maggy** · 03-01-2016, 12:23

FYI everyone THIS tree hugging liberal namby pamby isn't OK with this..However if we aren't seen to be doing something then we fall below those standards that we seem to insist the rest of the world should live by.As it is whatever is decided and acted upon won't be enough to satisfy the rest of the universe.

dave6x · 03-01-2016, 12:24

If it is going to happen then it needs to be done properly. It should be a top down process similar to the Nuremberg Trials, where first the leaders are put on trial before there is any trial of individual servicemen.

It is very easy for us to sit back in our homes casting judgement on soldiers involved in these unfortunate incidents and in the worst cases then some action may need to be taken through the Courts Martial process. However please have some understanding of what some of these soldiers have gone through, seriously traumatised by seeing their mates and colleagues blown up or shot by "the enemy", and put yourself in their situation. I don't know how I would react and suspect many others don't either, the best training in the world will not counter the brutalizing impact that may adversely affect the judgement of some soldiers in these circumstances!