Call for shut down of Muslim immigration

[Ramrod]

looks like some of what he said has been backed up by our own police:

a Lancashire Police officer has said: “There are Muslim areas of Preston that, if we wish to patrol, we have to contact local Muslim community leaders to get their permission”.

Another officer from Yorkshire in the North of England, wrote on an online Police web forum: “I’m not allowed to travel in half blues [uniform] to work anymore IN MY OWN CAR as we’re “All at risk of attack”

link

This has also been said to me by a met police armed response officer.

[Tezcatlipoca]

"Confirmed" by Breitbart again, eh?

[Jimmy-J]

London Cop Tells LBC: "There Are No-Go Areas"

Afterwards, Nick Ferrari commented: "Hang on a second, maybe there is something in what Donald Trump said. Police are being advised not to travel to and from work in their uniforms.

"So suddenly all this "How dare he say this about London", well no the Met Police accept it as well.

"I appreciate this isn't radicalisation. But certain estates they only go mob-handed - I don't blame them for a second.

"So instead of all shrieking about Donald Trump, perhaps there is just something about what he says."

[Ignitionnet]

Sadly generally the only people who dare break with the group-think tend to do so while making the most idiotic statements, making the legitimate points behind what they say trivial to ignore.

Politicians of all colours are happy to ignore inconvenient truths. They have for years. Why break the trend now?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca

"Confirmed" by Breitbart again, eh?

Don't knock the source. Examine what is being said.
My personal experience with what armed officers say to me bears this out as well btw.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Sadly generally the only people who dare break with the group-think tend to do so while making the most idiotic statements, making the legitimate points behind what they say trivial to ignore.

Exactly

[figgyburn]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

looks like some of what he said has been backed up by our own police:


link

This has also been said to me by a met police armed response officer.

So there is a kernel of truth about what trump said.I'm sure there are areas in say Marseille, france where the police are hesitant about entering unless in force.Now there is no way that his policy would be enforcible in this politically p.c. world but is paris.san bernadino just going to be the "new normal"and we will just have to get used to frequent slaughter of innocents.Because bombing Syria will do absolutely nothing to stop the flood of people to the e.u. and the rise of isis.Isis think and do the unthinkable we are scared to even contemplate doing anything unthinkable so we lose everytime.The politicians have to be seen to be doing something even if it is the wrong thing.Desperate times call for desperate measures.Lastly let me play devils advocate and ask if heavens forbid a "call to arms"ever came who's side would the assimilated/homeborn muslim population of the western Europe and the u.s.a. be on?.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35058601

The irony...

Boxing legend Muhammad Ali has criticised US Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump's proposal to ban Muslims from entering America.
Without naming Mr Trump, Mr Ali said that Muslims "have to stand up to those who use Islam to advance their own personal agenda".

"Muslim Americans are our friends and our neighbours, our co-workers, our sports heroes," Mr Obama said.
Mr Trump reacted to Mr Obama's statement saying: "Obama said in his speech that Muslims are our sports heroes. What sport is he talking about, and who?"
The presidential candidate has met Mr Ali several times, and even received an award named after the former heavyweight champion in 2007.

There's parts of Glasgow and London that police officers won't venture into, and it's not because of Muslims, it's because the vans/police officers will get attacked by the local white residents; I know some Leeds police officers (of various ranks and duties), and there are parts of Leeds they won't enter at night unless they go mob-handed, and the residents are mostly UK white citizens.

Growing up in Govan in the 50s and 60s, plod went around in threes for safety - nothing to do with Islam.

Originally Posted by Hugh

There's parts of Glasgow and London that police officers won't venture into, and it's not because of Muslims, it's because the vans/police officers will get attacked by the local white residents; I know some Leeds police officers (of various ranks and duties), and there are parts of Leeds they won't enter at night unless they go mob-handed, and the residents are mostly UK white citizens.

Growing up in Govan in the 50s and 60s, plod went around in threes for safety - nothing to do with Islam.

There are parts of Portsmouth that ordinary folk won't enter let alone the police,emergency agencies and it has to do with criminal behaviour and not Muslims.
Mind there are those who fail utterly to differentiate between Sikhs,Hindus and Muslims.

Worrying this doesn't seem to have hurt Trump in the polls. I am not convinced these polls are correct because there are so few Republicans that back Trump publicly, even Fox News are repulsed by him, but it's still concerning. The Republican party are paying the price for fostering conspiracies that a monotone moron like Trump can be in serious consideration and whilst he wouldn't win the national election, and I still believe doesn't stand a chance of the nomination, he is going to seriously hurt the Republican party if he causes the more moderate candidates to go off piste and engage on his hate-mongering nonsense.

He's said if he doesn't win the Republican nomination, he will stand as an independent.

I would imagine Hilary Clinton is hoping and praying this happens...

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3133971.html

I read this item with great interest. The one great thing about this country, is the values we have of Freedom of speech.

This is what the United Kingdom is about. Since this whole business started, we have people saying this and that. There are places we can and cannot go.

My son for example is going to a football match tonight and travelling by tube - he is terrified because of what is happening in the world.

We cannot be put off by name slagging, and people who are scared to say anything, in case it offends.

Yes, there are things happening in this world, but people have to carry on living.

I have NEVER been a racist, and never will be. But, l always wonder what to say in front of people in case this offends. This should NOT be happening.

We should be allowed to express our views without any repercussions. Its called FREE SPEECH.

Remember Speakers Corner in London - FREE SPEECH

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Remember the slogan - Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3133971.html

I read this item with great interest. The one great thing about this country, is the values we have of Freedom of speech.

This is what the United Kingdom is about. Since this whole business started, we have people saying this and that. There are places we can and cannot go.

My son for example is going to a football match tonight and travelling by tube - he is terrified because of what is happening in the world.

We cannot be put off by name slagging, and people who are scared to say anything, in case it offends.

Yes, there are things happening in this world, but people have to carry on living.

I have NEVER been a racist, and never will be. But, l always wonder what to say in front of people in case this offends. This should NOT be happening.

We should be allowed to express our views without any repercussions. Its called FREE SPEECH.

Remember Speakers Corner in London - FREE SPEECH

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Remember the slogan - Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

The woman is rabid self publicist, London is better off is she decides to leave it. Perfect columnist for the DM, marriage made in heaven.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3133971.html

I read this item with great interest. The one great thing about this country, is the values we have of Freedom of speech.

This is what the United Kingdom is about. Since this whole business started, we have people saying this and that. There are places we can and cannot go.

My son for example is going to a football match tonight and travelling by tube - he is terrified because of what is happening in the world.

We cannot be put off by name slagging, and people who are scared to say anything, in case it offends.

Yes, there are things happening in this world, but people have to carry on living.

I have NEVER been a racist, and never will be. But, l always wonder what to say in front of people in case this offends. This should NOT be happening.

We should be allowed to express our views without any repercussions. Its called FREE SPEECH.

Remember Speakers Corner in London - FREE SPEECH

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Remember the slogan - Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

Free speech shouldn't and doesn't extend to being irresponsible or offensive, why should anyone's right to free speech extend to causing someone else upset, perhaps your son can exercise his right to free speech by shouting fire hysterically at the football tonight, you'll be fine with that obviously and expect no reprocussions

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3133971.html

I read this item with great interest. The one great thing about this country, is the values we have of Freedom of speech.

This is what the United Kingdom is about. Since this whole business started, we have people saying this and that. There are places we can and cannot go.

My son for example is going to a football match tonight and travelling by tube - he is terrified because of what is happening in the world.

We cannot be put off by name slagging, and people who are scared to say anything, in case it offends.

Yes, there are things happening in this world, but people have to carry on living.

I have NEVER been a racist, and never will be. But, l always wonder what to say in front of people in case this offends. This should NOT be happening.

We should be allowed to express our views without any repercussions. Its called FREE SPEECH.

Remember Speakers Corner in London - FREE SPEECH

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Remember the slogan - Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

You seem to have forgotten that FREE SPEECH does not mean that ANYONE is allowed to INCITE hatred of other groups and to promote violence and abuse of any group.