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[ianch99]

So 300GB would cover a reasonable percentage of UK households .. but this cap should increase in line with usage

[Ignitionnet]

Ah the FTTC figures.

It should be noted they include non-OTT VoD, which the VM DOCSIS 3 broadband figures don't, include some broadcast TV delivered over multicast, which the VM figures don't, and include a bunch of extra data courtesy of Sky's pre-loading of STBs overnight with the most popular VoD products

The VM figure I mentioned is nigh on a year old, too. Probably somewhat different now and, of course, their figures should be considered against an FTTC and ADSL base, or middle and above tiers on VM only. All the people on VM's lowest tier because they hardly use their broadband will reduce the average considerably, as would all the people still on ADSL because they don't use the Internets much.

BTWholesale put peak usage per subscriber across their userbase at <500kb/s earlier this year. VM's was twice that at last inspection.

Lies, damned lies, etc.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Ah the FTTC figures.

It should be noted they include non-OTT VoD, which the VM DOCSIS 3 broadband figures don't, include some broadcast TV delivered over multicast, which the VM figures don't, and include a bunch of extra data courtesy of Sky's pre-loading of STBs overnight with the most popular VoD products

Yes, I did think that, VM's wouldn't count the majority of their TV content since that'd be delivered directly over CATV. Though just how much BT TV actually takes up (compared to e.g. Netflix or Youtube) is unclear.

their figures should be considered against an FTTC and ADSL base, or middle and above tiers on VM only. All the people on VM's lowest tier because they hardly use their broadband will reduce the average considerably, as would all the people still on ADSL because they don't use the Internets much.

It's nigh on impossible to get a completely fair comparison, given VM's much higher average speeds, BT getting the lions share of uneconomical areas, and all VM tiers being unlimited where many FTTC packages are not. Then there's the "fibre" marketing. The fact that FTTC users on Openreach use 75% of the total capacity despite being less than 25% of the userbase is telling.

That said the overall average is around 55GB across all BT (FTTC and ADSL) lines.

Either way, data consumption is growing fast across the board and it won't be long before the average exceeds 300GB

[Ignitionnet]

I actually just looked again at those FTTC figures.

Those aren't monthly, they're for the entire quarter. ~63GB/month average, considerably lower than VM.

[Chrysalis]

well yeah, we have to remember there is still millions of people out there who do very little online.

My parents e.g. although they love watching films, refuse to let us plug in a box to their tv to use netflix.

If the average usage was anything near whats been said in this thread then something would have to give.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I actually just looked again at those FTTC figures.

Those aren't monthly, they're for the entire quarter. ~63GB/month average, considerably lower than VM.

Oh. Derps. Ars clearly misquoted it:

Today, the average FTTC subscriber downloads 165GB and uploads 25GB of data per month; back in 2012, just two and a half years ago, the combined total was less than 60GB. This equates to roughly 40 percent year-over-year growth, which is pretty massive.

(http://arstechnica.co.uk/information...fibre-network/)