Cameron lied to get back in (tax credits and hard working people) - Page 6

30-10-2015, 00:33

Whilst this current bunch have no compassion conservatism as an ideology does and always has and my biggest hope is we the British public reclaim our politics from the near factory line plastic career politicians we have now and go back to ordinary local people representing their local area in the commons. There are a few in there who have had some normal life experience but far more that haven't and how can you expect balanced policies from people that have never lived like 80% of the people they represent.

dave6x · 04-11-2015, 13:01

I've read a number of posts here that support a second chamber but not the current unelected, unaccountable House of Lords.

Please sign the Electoral Reform Society's petition to support an elected second chamber.

Hom3r · 04-11-2015, 23:25

Don't all MPs & PMs lie?

**Hugh** · 05-11-2015, 00:50

No, just like not all CF'ers are racist, sexist, or xenophobic.

Just because some are, doesn't mean all are...

Gary L · 05-11-2015, 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

No, just like not all CF'ers are racist, sexist, or xenophobic.

Just because some are, doesn't mean all are...

So which one are you?

if it's not one of them then it's something else.

everybody is something. they're lying if they say they aren't.

**Hugh** · 05-11-2015, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L

So which one are you?

if it's not one of them then it's something else.

everybody is something. they're lying if they say they aren't.

You appear to be judging others by your own standards....

Chrysalis · 08-11-2015, 02:12

So as predicted the cuts are now going to be moved to other parts of the DWP (although tax credits are the HMRC budget), although its not known where yet as IDS doesnt want to put the cuts where George wants them.

I wonder if that screaming lady on question time would be so concerned for the victims of the redirected cuts or if she only cares about her own family. I expect now the target will be a part of the population who wont make a noise about it.

denphone · 08-11-2015, 05:16

George Osborne wants to cut Universal credit l hear.

**Hugh** · 08-11-2015, 11:50

Where did you hear that, den?

denphone · 08-11-2015, 12:34

Here we are Hugh.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...e-workers.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6725166.html

**Hugh** · 08-11-2015, 14:09

Thank you.

I think GO has to re-evaluate his options, because what is being suggested is ludicrous.

denphone · 08-11-2015, 14:11

Yes l quite agree.

Chrysalis · 08-11-2015, 19:20

The change he wants is actually the exact same thing as what he wanted to do with tax credits, except it would be done to universal credit instead of tax credits.

Remember universal credit merges all the benefits together, and what IDS wants is for work to be more rewarding than been unemployed, so basically GO proposed to cut the tax credit equivalent in UC as people wouldnt notice until its too late.

Really GO should just back down and accept the cuts to be missing, he already has said they not needed to reach their deficit targets which must mean they only been done for ideology purposes. If IDS gets his own way then we will likely see these cuts fall on some other part of the DWP.

**Maggy** · 08-11-2015, 19:41

Isn't there a danger with universal credit that the disabled and long term ill and terminally ill will be impacted?

denphone · 08-11-2015, 19:50

That's already happening to some extent with ESA and now the full PIP rollout over the next 2 to 3 years and sadly l don't expect it to get better anytime soon for any of these groups.