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			04-10-2015, 13:49
			
			
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				I was always going to vote to get out of the EU, and with the situation going on just now,  I very much believe it is a wise decision to make,   We need out 
			
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 Same here, it would take a major change in the EU to make me vote to stay.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-10-2015, 18:08
			
			
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				Same here, it would take a major change in the EU to make me vote to stay. 
			
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 I can't see them changing enough to make me want to stay.  
Even if we vote to get out, the EU won't let us leave. They will stop us leaving somehow. It's as simple as that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2015, 18:16
			
			
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			It's really very simple: You tear up the treaty of Rome on TV and then stop writing the cheques. That will bring them to the negotiating table PDQ.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-10-2015, 18:47
			
			
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				I can't see them changing enough to make me want to stay.  
Even if we vote to get out, the EU won't let us leave. They will stop us leaving somehow. It's as simple as that. 
			
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 It takes two years to leave the EU and costs an absolute fortune, it's designed to be sward so once your in you stay in
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				It takes two years to leave the EU and costs an absolute fortune, it's designed to be sward so once your in you stay in 
			
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 Only if you play by the "rules"
 
As I say just stop writing the cheques.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It costs us a fortune to stay in and we'll be writing the cheques and suffering the Euro-madness in perpetuity.  I know which option I prefer.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I can't see them changing enough to make me want to stay.  
Even if we vote to get out, the EU won't let us leave. They will stop us leaving somehow. It's as simple as that. 
			
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 Indeed, Dave will make sure he gets the vote he wants and if by chance he does not he will hold referendum after referendum till he does.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It takes two years to leave the EU and costs an absolute fortune 
			
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			I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. 
 
Its not a simple Stay or Leave. 
 
We need to be told in plain English what the pros & cons are, both sort & long term. 
 
If its pain all the way then stay, but I can accept short term pain for long term gain.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				There is provision for it?!    
			
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 Yes article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty  
 
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				Only if you play by the "rules" 
 
As I say just stop writing the cheques. 
			
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 I did assume you were joking when you said that, doesn't strike me as a good idea if we want a deal on our terms or if we don't want the worst of what the EU scaremongerers predict to come true.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			The outcome is a forgone conclusion; can't believe anybody thinks otherwise.  Opinion may genuinely be 50/50 now, be it'll be a comfortable 'stay in' vote when it comes to it.   The public are easily manipulated and scared of change.  
 
Cameron, as we all know, will get nothing from the EU but pretend he has. All major parties will campaign to stay in, the media will do as their Tory bosses instruct when it comes to it.  The undecided confused voters will vote for the status quo on the day as all sorts of scare stories will be circulated about the alternative  - this always works as most of the British public are dim. 
 
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			So most people are dim, except you and those who agree with you?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I'm not dim. and I agree with him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Very few of us have doubts about the level of your intelligence, Gary...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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