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					Originally Posted by muppetman11  Personally I'd question him with Apples track record on streaming tv boxes , they've hardly stood out from the competition have they.
 Apps on tv it's hardly something new is it.
 |  Agreed, MM, but he's in the business, and I think there are plenty who are in the business who would agree with him.
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			Too many devices out there for my liking, keep it simple, makes it easier for the end user.....   |  
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					Originally Posted by Mad Max  Too many devices out there for my liking, keep it simple, makes it easier for the end user.....  |  I agree . All streaming services should be on the Tivo box! We all know it makes sense!!    |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I agree . All streaming services should be on the Tivo box! We all know it makes sense!!   |  But the tivo box struggles with iplayer and netflix so it won't have chance with half the apps the firetv runs    |  
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		|  24-09-2015, 15:28 | #410 |  
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					Originally Posted by theone2k10  But the tivo box struggles with iplayer and netflix so it won't have chance with half the apps the firetv runs   |  The Tivo is certainly slower these days, but whether this is to do with the number of streaming services or not, I have no idea.
 
I think the priority now for VM should be on rolling out an updated Tivo connected to the cloud for recordings with as many streaming services as possible on it, such as Amazon and Now TV. This would provide Virgin subscribers with maximum TV content unrivalled by any other UK provider.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I was interested to read in The Sunday Times that Tim Cook (the Chief Executive of Apple) has stated that in his view "the future of television is apps".
 He believes that instead of flicking through channels, consumers will 'increasingly look to a variety of apps when they sit down in front of the TV set'. It states in the Times article that the power that TV channels currently wield through their programming schedules will disappear. Although Sky and other commercials are safe for the time being, 'the long term threat to Britain's biggest commercial broadcasters is plain.  The impact of the interlopers has been most keenly felt across the Atlantic. Americans have become used to buying expensive cable TV packages, because the country has so few quality free to air channels, such as BBC and ITV.  Many households are severing cable contracts costing $100 a month or more in favour of the slimmed down deals from Amazon and Netflix'.
 
 This is exactly what I have been predicting will happen here unless the terrestrial commercial channels pull some rabbits out of hats.
 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Doubtless you will repeating this ad nauseam then in the coming years old boy.  |  I'll try not to be so tiresome!   |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  The Tivo is certainly slower these days, but whether this is to do with the number of streaming services or not, I have no idea.
 I think the priority now for VM should be on rolling out an updated Tivo connected to the cloud for recordings with as many streaming services as possible on it, such as Amazon and Now TV. This would provide Virgin subscribers with maximum TV content unrivalled by any other UK provider.
 |  Nowtv will never be on vms Tivo box it is not in VMs interest to have it on their device. 
Amazon is a possibility but not for a very long time i feel.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I was interested to read in The Sunday Times that Tim Cook (the Chief Executive of Apple) has stated that in his view "the future of television is apps".
 He believes that instead of flicking through channels, consumers will 'increasingly look to a variety of apps when they sit down in front of the TV set'. It states in the Times article that the power that TV channels currently wield through their programming schedules will disappear. Although Sky and other commercials are safe for the time being, 'the long term threat to Britain's biggest commercial broadcasters is plain.  The impact of the interlopers has been most keenly felt across the Atlantic. Americans have become used to buying expensive cable TV packages, because the country has so few quality free to air channels, such as BBC and ITV.  Many households are severing cable contracts costing $100 a month or more in favour of the slimmed down deals from Amazon and Netflix'.
 
 This is exactly what I have been predicting will happen here unless the terrestrial commercial channels pull some rabbits out of hats.
 
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 |  Please explain to me how I'm going to be better off in your world ?
 
As it stands now I can use the EPG or search On Demand and find whatever I want to watch easily , in your world of individual On Demand players things seem rather more long winded not to mention potentially more costly.
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					Originally Posted by theone2k10  Nowtv will never be on vms Tivo box it is not in VMs interest to have it on their device.Amazon is a possibility but not for a very long time i feel.
 |   I do think that it would be in VM's interests because then there would be less pressure for viewers to go to Sky for the channels we don't get but are 'must have' channels.
 
It's a good solution because those who don't want to pay extra for those channels don't have to, and those who want to stay with Virgin and are prepared to pay extra (for Now TV) can do so.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I do think that it would be in VM's interests because then there would be less pressure for viewers to go to Sky for the channels we don't get but are 'must have' channels.
 It's a good solution because those who don't want to pay extra for those channels don't have to, and those who want to stay with Virgin and are prepared to pay extra (for Now TV) can do so.
 |  I'll eat my hat if Nowtv ever shows up on vms tivo.
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		|  24-09-2015, 17:39 | #417 |  
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					Originally Posted by muppetman11  Please explain to me how I'm going to be better off in your world ?
 As it stands now I can use the EPG or search On Demand and find whatever I want to watch easily, in your world of individual On Demand players things seem rather more long winded not to mention potentially more costly.
 |   The linear channels are safe in the short to medium term, but the crunch will almost certainly come eventually.
 
You describe it as 'my world' and I admit that I am comfortable with it as I no longer watch broadcast TV live, but I am not wishing this on everyone.  I'm simply stating what I believe is the way we are going.
 
In terms of your question, I have to say that it would take me ages to select a programme I would want to watch at a specific time from my EPG and I can find stuff from Netflix pretty quickly.
 
A set top box designed to carry different streaming services would have advanced search facilities that would assist you in finding the types of programme you were looking for.  It would also keep track on where you were in any given series (as Netflix and Amazon do very efficiently already).
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					Originally Posted by theone2k10  I'll eat my hat if Nowtv ever shows up on vms tivo. |  It won't.....
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  It won't..... |  Exactly mate i know my hat is safe.
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					Originally Posted by denphone  It won't..... |   In your humble opinion, Den!    |  
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