Unstoppable migration? - Page 44

techguyone · 19-09-2015, 16:53

Just for clarity to those who thought I was surprised that these people have technology. I'm not.

I was however pointing out, that because so many do, and are also on Social media etc that it's ramping up numbers of people who are now more advised on routes to take, places to avoid etc, than would have been in times gone by.

mrmistoffelees · 19-09-2015, 17:06

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Just for clarity to those who thought I was surprised that these people have technology. I'm not.

I was however pointing out, that because so many do, and are also on Social media etc that it's ramping up numbers of people who are now more advised on routes to take, places to avoid etc, than would have been in times gone by.

A reasoned well thought out post apart from one problem

The routes being used are hundreds if not thousands of years old

Osem · 19-09-2015, 17:19

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Just for clarity to those who thought I was surprised that these people have technology. I'm not.

I was however pointing out, that because so many do, and are also on Social media etc that it's ramping up numbers of people who are now more advised on routes to take, places to avoid etc, than would have been in times gone by.

That's clearly the case and only adds to the problems we face.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

the locals might not be as happy as you are at giving away the housing stock and the local jobs .

Yes, it's finding your own jobs, services, housing, benefits etc. coming under pressure which focuses minds and turns opinions then we find local people coming into conflict with the newcomers. It's really nothing new, it's just on an unprecedented scale in peacetime.

Ignitionnet · 19-09-2015, 17:21

Be interesting to see if Germany remain enthusiastic given E6 billion of savings from this year are going towards handling their migrant / refugee influx with a further E2.5 billion of public spending cuts planned to help cover the bill next year.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1053670.html

Osem · 19-09-2015, 17:28

"Well of course they're nearly all Syrian refugees aren't they":

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Over 210 000 first time asylum seekers in the EU in the second quarter of 2015.
A third are from Syria or Afghanistan

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...b-cc9b4f6a838f

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During the second quarter of 2015 (from April to June 2015), 213 200 first time asylum seekers applied for protection in the European Union (EU), up by 15% compared with the first quarter of 2015 and by 85% compared with the second quarter of 2014. In particular, the number of Syrians and Afghans rose considerably to reach almost 44 000 and 27 000 respectively. They represent the two main citizenships of first time asylum applicants in the EU over the second quarter 2015, accounting for a third of all first time applicants. Kosovars, who were the top citizenship of first time asylum applicants in the first three months of 2015, have seen their number drop from almost 50 000 during the first quarter 2015 to just over 10 000 in the second quarter 2015

Ermmm... No they're not.

mrmistoffelees · 19-09-2015, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Osem

"Well of course they're nearly all Syrian refugees aren't they":

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...b-cc9b4f6a838f

Ermmm... No they're not.

Erm.....

ianch99 · 19-09-2015, 18:13

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Another one to the ignore list, you go and be a luvvie & read your Guardian and feel all smug inside because you're making it 'all alright'

I'll keep it real thanks, I'm not into self flagellation, but go and knock yourself out.

Must be a long list by now then

heero_yuy · 19-09-2015, 18:36

Nobody on my ignore list. I love reading mindless drivel.

ianch99 · 19-09-2015, 19:14

So do I

Ramrod · 19-09-2015, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca

The Independent (James O'Malley) - Surprised that Syrian refugees have smartphones? Sorry to break this to you, but you're an idiot

He's not thought this through. As I said above, it's the roaming fees that are crippling......not the phone purchase price. Anyway, they must have cheaper providers than we do.

papa smurf · 19-09-2015, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

He's not thought this through. As I said above, it's the roaming fees that are crippling......not the phone purchase price. Anyway, they must have cheaper providers than we do.

well the good thing is they had the foresight to take their electronics with them, sad that most of them seem to have left the women children and elders behind unless the media is only filming mostly young men to influence our perception of the situation .

Tezcatlipoca · 19-09-2015, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

He's not thought this through. As I said above, it's the roaming fees that are crippling......not the phone purchase price. Anyway, they must have cheaper providers than we do.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Vodafone euro traveller £3 per day and you get to use your normal minutes/texts/data for example across the whole of Europe

Or PAYG sims depending on the country they're currently in

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

well the good thing is they had the foresight to take their electronics with them, sad that most of them seem to have left the women children and elders behind unless the media is only filming mostly young men to influence our perception of the situation .

"Most of them"?

Based on what?

You haven't fallen for the obviously BS Facebook memes, have you?

papa smurf · 19-09-2015, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca

"Most of them"?

Based on what?

You haven't fallen for the obviously BS Facebook memes, have you?

i have never used facebook or the like ,my observation comes from the tv news broadcasts and i observe mostly young men being filmed marching across Europe .

Osem · 19-09-2015, 21:54

Some figures based on gender:

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The distribution of asylum applicants by sex shows that men were more likely than women to seek asylum. Across the EU-28, the gender distribution was most balanced for asylum applicants aged less than 14, where boys accounted for 53 % of the total number of applications in 2014. There was a greater degree of gender inequality for asylum applicants aged 14–17 or 18–34, where around three quarters of applicants were male. Female applicants outnumbered male applicants for asylum seekers aged 65 and over, although this group was relatively small, accounting for just 0.8 % of the total number of applications in 2014.

The gender difference was even more apparent when considering unaccompanied minors, as 86 % of asylum applicants in the EU-28 in 2014 that were unaccompanied minors were male, compared with 54 % for accompanied minors.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist...lum_statistics

TheDaddy · 20-09-2015, 02:12

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Must admit I was wondering how different the comments would be if the UK was 'the first safe country' and the 300k+ people had arrived on our European shores. I'm pretty sure the complaints on here would be about the rest of Europe not helping us out by letting us ship people around the continent. But it's OK as they're not banging on our door so sod them.

Cheers

Grim

We had 600k polish plus turn up iirc, perhaps they could settle there, Poland must have plenty of room now