[Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Corbyn did with ISIS and America too. The constant attempt to draw moral equivalence between the 'us'/the west and terrorists.

[Horizon]

I saw PMQs today and thought it was interesting. I liked how he put real issues like housing and mental health as top billing, rather than go with whatever the headline of the day was. Cameron had the opportunity to hit Corbyn with the national anthem thing, but chose not too. A wise decision, I think.

I expected the Tory MPs to cheer when he first spoke, but they didn't and found out later they were told not to, a good move in hindsight. They looked worried by the end of PMQs with good reason, I believe.

I was a little bit too young to remember Michael Foot, except that he was a quiet gentleman, but the country rejected his policies outright and I think this will be the same with Corbyn, but we'll see.

I don't see myself ever voting Labour, let alone for a hard left player like Corbyn. But, if he is a serious politician and is committed to sorting things that need sorting out, I will listen to what he has to say.

We've all had enough of the carbon copy, media friendly, word perfect and totally shallow people that most of our politicians are these days. Perhaps Corbyn may shake things up, but when he is so dogmatic in his "principles" that he would rather divorce his wife than agree with her about sending their son to a top grammar school, then this kind of person simply terrifies me.

Principles are great, except when it overrides basic common sense.

I await to see his stance on the nuclear weapons. If he is committed to getting rid of them in the face of an ever aggressive Mr Putin, then I will stop listening to him at that point.

I think the issue is that you do need professional politicians. People claim they want normal people who speak their mind but people also claim they're sick of celebrity gossip. The reality is that spin is still important and if Corbyn had a proper PR team they wouldn't have allowed him to cancel interviews just after he was elected, they would have controlled the cabinet announcements to feature the women first, they would have told him to just sing the bloody national anthem.

His entire operation has been amateur so far. He has gifted the press easy stories to run with when there was no need, an even greater mistake when you consider the task he faces. There was no need to have that footage of him blanking the Sky camera or the video of him not signing - these achieved nothing and they're obvious to even an observer as a massive error of judgement.

Blair and Cameron are slick. They know how to play the game, they know how to avoid a headline and block a question. Farage is excellent at appealing to his audience and knows just where to draw the line when it comes to providing a quote.

Corbyn actually is that straight talking guy and it's terrible. It's the equivalent of when people on TV think they won't need make-up. You will because the camera will make you look terrible.

[Horizon]

.... I don't disagree. The press have enjoyed every Corby moment so far, all of which could have easily been avoided.

Cameron and Blair are masters of their art, actors on a stage and considering the amount of times Blair was elected, it's clearly what people wanted.

Corbyn is real. Whether the electorate want real is another question entirely.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm expecting a story about him eating babies next (it'll be jelly babies, but that will be a minor omitted detail...).

The baby story is coming up, but for today we have this!

Originally Posted by Horizon

.... I don't disagree. The press have enjoyed every Corby moment so far, all of which could have easily been avoided.

Cameron and Blair are masters of their art, actors on a stage and considering the amount of times Blair was elected, it's clearly what people wanted.

Corbyn is real. Whether the electorate want real is another question entirely.

Everybody is real. Not everybody is a leader. Reading out other people's questions at PMQs may be a real attempt to do things differently, but it doesn't make him a leader. The Prime Minister of the UK isn't supposed to be an avatar for the British people, he is supposed to be a representative with personal control and responsibility for events.

[Jimmy-J]

I can't see him lasting very long.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

The baby story is coming up, but for today we have this!

Sleeze. Who'd have thought it.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Compare that to David Cameron's reply to the question from Mr Dodds Mr Corbyn's not going to have many friends if he keeps giving equivalence to the IRA killings to actions of the Army, imho.

He's way too equivocal on a number of issues for my taste.

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Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

The baby story is coming up, but for today we have this!

Saw that yesterday. A really hideous visualisation. Made me sorely regret doing the Dryathlon.

[Ignitionnet]

http://newsthump.com/2015/09/16/god-...nt-ask-nicely/

The Almighty God has today announced he will no longer save the Queen because Jeremy Corbyn didn’t sing a nice song asking him to.

God has taken steps after new Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn refused to sing a song to an entity he doesn’t believe exists, about a woman whose job he thinks shouldn’t.

Speaking through his representative on earth, God told reporters, “Look, I exist, I know that, and now so do you, so I’ll just continue to look after those who plead to be protected, and those who please me.”

He's the gift that keeps on giving.....

This quote from a BBC interview on the 16th September referred to in the Grauniad

Jeremy Corbyn has raised the prospect that he would push for a change to the ceremony in which the Queen makes him a privy counsellor after he was told he would have to bend his knee to the monarch.

Corbyn, a republican, balked at the prospect when he was informed that kneeling was part of the process, saying he was unfamiliar with the protocol and would have to discuss the best response with his advisers.

In a BBC interview, Corbyn, who was elected as Labour leader on Saturday with a landslide 59.5% of the vote, said he had not been invited to join the privy council, a largely ceremonial body of advisers to the Queen, contrary to a Downing Street statement released on Monday.

Downing Street statement 14th September

The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Jeremy Corbyn MP as a member of the Privy Council.

He's obviously not checked his post or email....

[denphone]

Perhaps he has as many letters to open as he has emails and has not got to it yet.

[Osem]

I know he's been a backbencher for 30 odd years but he doesn't seem to have learned much about the way things are done and what's expected of a party leader, even if it's purely out of common courtesy and respect. I think he's probably better suited to presenting late night radio phone-ins.

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

The baby story is coming up, but for today we have this!

The love child of Jeremy and Diane

[Osem]

Bet she sends him to private school too...