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		|  01-09-2015, 09:41 | #1921 |  
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Don't forget that the Netflix-Disney deal starts next year.
 
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		|  01-09-2015, 09:46 | #1922 |  
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			Thanks for that PB.  
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					Originally Posted by denphone   |  Is that just the US?
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		|  01-09-2015, 10:46 | #1924 |  
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			Everything seems to be saying it's the US & Canada only at present, but I guess we'll find out this month!
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Is that just the US? |  l could not say but one would not be surprised if it affects UK subscribers as well.
		 
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		|  01-09-2015, 12:03 | #1926 |  
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					Originally Posted by passingbat  Do you subscribe to Amazon Prime and Now TV, OB? |  Yes, I do, having become frustrated by Virgin's slow progress in resolving the Sky Atlantic and streaming services issues that I have referred to in the past.
 
I now have a smart Sony TV which gives me access to Amazon, and I have subscribed to the Amazon Prime Instant video service.
 
I also have a Roku streaming stick, allowing me access to Now TV with its Sky Atlantic and ITV Encore programming.
 
Now, of course, I am lacking access to AMC programming, and so the pressure to have more and more boxes and devices to access everything increases yet again. It really makes me mad!
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		|  01-09-2015, 13:09 | #1927 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Yes, I do, having become frustrated by Virgin's slow progress in resolving the Sky Atlantic and streaming services issues that I have referred to in the past.
 I now have a smart Sony TV which gives me access to Amazon, and I have subscribed to the Amazon Prime Instant video service.
 
 I also have a Roku streaming stick, allowing me access to Now TV with its Sky Atlantic and ITV Encore programming.
 
 Now, of course, I am lacking access to AMC programming, and so the pressure to have more and more boxes and devices to access everything increases yet again. It really makes me mad!
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I think in reality, with the services you have now (which is useful to know BTW), there is only really Fear of the Walking Dead that is an issue, which will be on Prime next year anyway.
 
I think all the other shows are available via Prime or Netflix, though Rectify (and maybe a few other titles) will require the use of a service such as Unblockus.
 
Because Amazon already had the rights to a couple of good AMC shows (Turn and Halt and Catch Fire) before the BT deal (and will keep those rights), for people using streaming services, BT's AMC channel is pretty unimportant. But for BT, it is very good PR.
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		|  01-09-2015, 13:44 | #1928 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone   |  A big loss imo but Disney kicks in next year.
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		|  01-09-2015, 14:22 | #1929 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Now, of course, I am lacking access to AMC programming, and so the pressure to have more and more boxes and devices to access everything increases yet again. It really makes me mad! |  That's capitalism, far more choice but not under the same roof. The regulators kept things artificially back by not allowing BT to operate a TV service and poor broadband speeds prevented Netflix and Amazon from establishing themselves earlier. Now the cat's out of the bag and we're seeing content spread across many platforms.
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		|  01-09-2015, 16:06 | #1930 |  
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		|  01-09-2015, 16:43 | #1931 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  That's capitalism, far more choice but not under the same roof. The regulators kept things artificially back by not allowing BT to operate a TV service and poor broadband speeds prevented Netflix and Amazon from establishing themselves earlier. Now the cat's out of the bag and we're seeing content spread across many platforms. |  And "content spread across platforms" means you have to subscribe to them all to get  what you want to see adding to your viewing costs if you want to stay legal.
 
One worry I have with VM is their ability to provide access to all content.  With Sky Atlantic and now BT with AMC, are there going to be other channels or routes to viewing content VM will be denied access to, as other providers want their own "competitive  advantage" channels?
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		|  01-09-2015, 16:48 | #1932 |  
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					Originally Posted by Perfect Choice  And "content spread across platforms" means you have to subscribe to them all to get  what you want to see adding to your viewing costs if you want to stay legal.
 One worry I have with VM is their ability to provide access to all content.  With Sky Atlantic and now BT with AMC, are there going to be other channels or routes to viewing content VM will be denied access to, as other providers want their own "competitive  advantage" channels?
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		|  01-09-2015, 16:53 | #1933 |  
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					Originally Posted by Perfect Choice  And "content spread across platforms" means you have to subscribe to them all to get  what you want to see adding to your viewing costs if you want to stay legal.
 One worry I have with VM is their ability to provide access to all content.  With Sky Atlantic and now BT with AMC, are there going to be other channels or routes to viewing content VM will be denied access to, as other providers want their own "competitive  advantage" channels?
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		|  01-09-2015, 17:07 | #1934 |  
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					Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute  Correct, although there is nothing stopping VM (barring financial clout) from doing this themselves |  Exactly I've said this many times , there is nothing at all stopping them.
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		|  01-09-2015, 17:32 | #1935 |  
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					Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute  Correct, although there is nothing stopping VM (barring financial clout) from doing this themselves |  To be honest, it doesn't need Virgin to stump up more money at all. 
 
They could simply pass on any charges for channels they didn't want to put in a package directly to those customers that wanted them and were prepared to pay.  At least that would give us the choice and avoid the need for multiple devices. 
 
It would also enable Virgin to claim that they offered the biggest selection of content than any other UK provider.  That fits exactly with John Malone's stated vision for Liberty Global.
 
I wonder what's stopping him from doing this now?
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