Yet again - Cyclist Killed in London

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I was talking in general. not just bikes.
and besides dead men can't talk. and there won't be any witnesses

Bit harsh on a 10 year old out on his first bike you brute .

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, I value a human life more than I value my car....

well if you drive a banger ...

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Originally Posted by Gary L

With me it's. You touch my car, You die.

i think you have to evaluate the situation ie car expensive and useful- cyclist no use to man nor beast net worth nil

[Taf]

I would hate to be in the position of having hurt, or worse, a cyclist through the cyclist's own fault.

Ditto a pedestrian.

A lot like a train driver who hits someone on the tracks.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Taf

I would hate to be in the position of having hurt, or worse, a cyclist through the cyclist's own fault.

Ditto a pedestrian.

A lot like a train driver who hits someone on the tracks.

the thing is though they are like kamikaze pilots intent on committing pesticide er [suicide] they just launch themselves into the path of any oncoming vehicle .

[heero_yuy]

I remember my father saying if it's a choice between a head-on and a cyclist. The cyclist gets it every time.

[Hom3r]

Why don't cyclists use those cycle/pedestrian paths.

But instead ride nearly in the middle of the road

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Why don't cyclists use those cycle/pedestrian paths.

But instead ride nearly in the middle of the road

Because it is not compulsory to do so. Because the surface is frequently poorly maintained. Because drains and loose gravel are dangerous for cyclists. Because cyclists can cycle on any part of the road.

And because it is easier to get in the way of cars when ambling down the middle of the highway .

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Why don't cyclists use those cycle/pedestrian paths.

But instead ride nearly in the middle of the road

Because they're all a bunch of hippies that hate cars (but don't mind sitting in somebody elses to get places) so they hog the lanes to annoy car drivers (that the roads were made for) (I won't mention road tax)
and some of them have got cameras on their heads, on the front,rear, sides and underneath so they can film the chaos they cause and upload it to Youtube so their mates can have a giggle

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Because it is not compulsory to do so. Because the surface is frequently poorly maintained. Because drains and loose gravel are dangerous for cyclists. Because cyclists can cycle on any part of the road.

And because it is easier to get in the way of cars when ambling down the middle of the highway .

because they are a bunch of morons with no regard for their own or any one else' s safety but have every excuse under the sun for for their acts of stupidity .

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

because they are a bunch of morons with no regard for their own or any one else' s safety but have every excuse under the sun for for their acts of stupidity .

That's not not true. You can can be very unfair at times. Just today I accidentally hit hit a wing wing mirror. My bad bad.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

That's not not true. You can can be very unfair at times. Just today I accidentally hit hit a wing wing mirror. My bad bad.

And did you give your details to the owner of the vehicle so that he can make an insurance claim against you for the damage?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

That's not not true. You can can be very unfair at times. Just today I accidentally hit hit a wing wing mirror. My bad bad.

Lycra lout
but in your defense you left your contact details on a little note under the windscreen wiper because your a responsible cyclist .

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Taf

And did you give your details to the owner of the vehicle so that he can make an insurance claim against you for the damage?

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Lycra lout
but in your defense you left your contact details on a little note under the windscreen wiper because your a responsible cyclist .

I stuck to the game plan and threw myself to the floor. This panics motorists who think they're in for a physical injury claim. He couldn't get away quick enough and I was happy to let him go .

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Why don't cyclists use those cycle/pedestrian paths.

But instead ride nearly in the middle of the road

Because they are Mr Macho Man in their lycra tights..All they need is a cape and they resemble a super hero.

Anyway I resent the money spent in providing off the road cycle ways around here for the inconsiderate to completely ignore them.No need to worry about traffic,drains,kerbs and all the crap to be found in the gutter... just a special length of path all for cyclists alone built courtesy of the local tax payer. But that's not dangerous enough for them..they want to be Bradley Wiggins..

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Because they are Mr Macho Man in their lycra tights..All they need is a cape and they resemble a super hero.

I don't think I've seen many superheroes on pushbikes. Not even the invisible woman.

Anyway I resent the money spent in providing off the road cycle ways around here for the inconsiderate to completely ignore them.No need to worry about traffic,drains,kerbs and all the crap to be found in the gutter... just a special length of path all for cyclists alone built courtesy of the local tax payer.

Roads are funded from general taxation (there's no such thing as road tax) so cyclists, who are also taxpayers, are entitled to expect some facilities for their contributions.

But that's not dangerous enough for them..they want to be Bradley Wiggins..

You're right that the cycle ways are not dangerous; it's the roads that are dangerous. Try to think it through .