General : £3 TV increase but BT Sport Europe is "free"

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

U Of course I 'get it', PB! Where did I suggest that Sky had 'sold' Now TV to Roku?

My point was that given Now TV is available on Roku (as well as other providers), this shows that Sky Atlantic is not being withheld from other platforms.

Now TV is available on other Devices, not Platforms.

Roku doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

LG doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

Apple TV doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

Virgin Media on Tivo does.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Now TV is available on other Devices, not Platforms.

Roku doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

LG doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

Apple TV doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

Virgin Media on Tivo does.

exactly SA is not on any other platform because sky wont let anyone else have it like they used to withhold all the other channels OB you to complain about sky about

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

sky will only let SA on it own platform sky own now tv why is it on no other platform because sky wont let anyone one else have it

Originally Posted by passingbat

Now TV is available on other Devices, not Platforms.

Roku doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

LG doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

Apple TV doesn't offer it's own pay TV service

Virgin Media on Tivo does.

I have not seen any evidence to suggest that your entirely factual post is the reason why Now TV is not available on VM.

I suspect that non inclusion is Virgin's decision, not Sky's.

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Originally Posted by Dave42

exactly SA is not on any other platform because sky wont let anyone else have it like they used to withhold all the other channels OB you to complain about sky about

Well, I thought that's what you'd say, Dave, but do you have any links or other supporting evidence to corroborate your comment, or is this simply your presumption?

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have not seen any evidence to suggest that your entirely factual post is the reason why Now TV is not available on VM.

I suspect that non inclusion is Virgin's decision, not Sky's.

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Well, I thought that's what you'd say, Dave, but do you have any links or other supporting evidence to corroborate your comment, or is this simply your presumption?

wrong why is it not on any other platform OB answer sky wont let anyone have it at all just need to look at sky history of withholding channels there is your answer

but as MM righty pointed out no use BT complaining to Ofcom about it as they doing the same thing

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

wrong why is it not on any other platform OB answer sky wont let anyone have it at all just need to look at sky history of withholding channels there is your answer

but as MM righty pointed out no use BT complaining to Ofcom about it as they doing the same thing

BT doesn't need to complain, Dave; OFCOM are looking into exclusivity deals applicable to pay-TV, and not too soon, IMHO.

Incidentally, the absence of Sky Atlantic/Now TV on TV platforms as opposed to other devices doesn't prove that Sky are withholding it from TV platforms.

From Sky's point of view, why would they? We can all get Now TV by other means of we want to, as I and many others have. It would just be more convenient for the user to have it all on one box.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have not seen any evidence to suggest that your entirely factual post is the reason why Now TV is not available on VM.

I suspect that non inclusion is Virgin's decision, not Sky's.

The evidence is deductive common sense.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

BT doesn't need to complain, Dave; OFCOM are looking into exclusivity deals applicable to pay-TV, and not too soon, IMHO.

Incidentally, the absence of Sky Atlantic/Now TV on TV platforms as opposed to other devices doesn't prove that Sky are withholding it from TV platforms.

From Sky's point of view, why would they? We can all get Now TV by other means of we want to, as I and many others have. It would just be more convenient for the user to have it all on one box.

same reason as they withheld all the other channels before OB mate they don't want anyone else to have SA simple as that and as I said before sky believe SA makes people join sky even though SA viewing figures prove that wrong

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Dave42

sky believe SA makes people join sky even though SA viewing figures prove that wrong

Please explain.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Please explain.

SA has low viewing figures vast majority of sky customers don't watch it if people joined sky just for SA it would have good viewing figure not low ones like it has

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Dave42

SA has low viewing figures vast majority of sky customers don't watch it if people joined sky just for SA it would have good viewing figure not low ones like it has

Quality content (in whatever medium), usually gets smaller audiences. As per quality verses tabloid papers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_circulation

Sky obviously value it's draw as premium content

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Dave42

SA has low viewing figures vast majority of sky customers don't watch it

Got any data to back that up?

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Quality content (in whatever medium), usually gets smaller audiences. As per quality verses tabloid papers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_circulation

Sky obviously value it's draw as premium content

quality apart from GOT and blue blood it crap most over rated channel ever IMHO

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

Got any data to back that up?

barb figures but not checked for a good while they might have improved a bit

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Dave42

quality apart from GOT and blue blood it crap most over rated channel ever IMHO

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barb figures but not checked for a good while they might have improved a bit

To be honest I can take or leave GOT , personally I've watched tons of shows off Atlantic and to be honest it probably one of the main reasons Sky still get my money. Even if I decide to leave in the future I'll still sub to Now TV mainly for this channel.

To be perfectly honest I never concern myself with viewing figures the contents either good or not , I've watched a few poor shows on there but overall it keeps us subscribing.

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Got any data to back that up?

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/mont...g-summary?_s=4

Sky Atlantic gets around half a percent of the total viewing figures in April, May, June this year, as opposed to
BBC1 - 20%
BBC2 - 5%
ITV1 - 12%

Week ending June 15th

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/monthly-top-30?_s=4

Most popular Sky Atlantic programme was, surprise surprise, GoT, which got just over 2 million viewers, about a fifth of all Sky TV subscribers.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Dave42

quality apart from GOT and blue blood it crap most over rated channel ever IMHO

Blue Bloods is a US, Network TV, procedural cop show; it belongs on Sky Living. Really don't know why Sky choose to put it on Atlantic. And that's not an insult to the show itself.