The state benefits system mega-thread.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Which is why it is important to ensure those in need get proper support and those who aren't, don't. If the imbalances of our society need to be rectified, then we have to start somewhere.

The bigger fish will have to await the revolution.

That's the problem though as they say they will sort out the bigger fish but we are still waiting......and waiting..... and waiting.

[johnhook]

Originally Posted by denphone

That's the problem though as they say they will sort out the bigger fish but we are still waiting......and waiting..... and waiting.

lol it wont trickle down . Our whole society is built on greed and the acquisition of material wealth

The consumer get no value for money the cost of living has exploded yet Tescos make hundreds of millions ( even with the BS loss they announce which is not as it seems) Utility companies profiteered and price fixed for years until new companies start to compete with the big 6. All they are interested in is the dividends they can pay the share holder this is arse about face the consumer should have to power

And who do you thinks runs the country? the government ? nah big business bankers the likes of Rothschild who lend the money to countries to continue to be mismanaged . And in the end money is artificial it means nothing but everyone wants it to buy more stuff

[Osem]

It may be an inconvenient truth to you but many millions of ordinary people are 'shareholders'. They're taxpayers, consumers and pensioners too and the latter rely on dividends to pay their pensions.

[johnhook]

Originally Posted by Osem

It may be an inconvenient truth to you but many millions of ordinary people are 'shareholders'. They're taxpayers, consumers and pensioners too and the latter rely on dividends to pay their pensions.

Not an inconvenient truth cuz the small shareholder does not even enter my mind. I see I have to specify things a little clearer so little holes are picked and the bigger picture missed

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Originally Posted by johnhook

lol it wont trickle down . Our whole society is built on greed and the acquisition of material wealth

The consumer get no value for money the cost of living has exploded yet Tescos make hundreds of millions ( even with the BS loss they announce which is not as it seems) Utility companies profiteered and price fixed for years until new companies start to compete with the big 6. All they are interested in is the dividends they can pay the larger share holders who make the decisions this is arse about face the consumer should have to power

And who do you thinks runs the country? the government ? nah big business bankers the likes of Rothschild who lend the money to countries to continue to be mismanaged . And in the end money is artificial it means nothing but everyone wants it to buy more stuff

Ok clarified my point a little

[Osem]

Originally Posted by johnhook

Not an inconvenient truth cuz the small shareholder does not even enter my mind. I see I have to specify things a little clearer so little holes are picked and the bigger picture missed

What's a 'small shareholder' then and what's that got to do with it?

You don't have to own shares directly to be reliant on the dividends paid to private pension funds and very many ordinary people are in that situation never having bought shares in their lives. Do they not enter your mind either or are they fair game? It's another of those stereotypes which seeks to portray all shareholders as rich cigar smoking, caviar eating and champagne quaffing fat cats.

[johnhook]

Originally Posted by Osem

What's a 'small shareholder' then and what's that got to do with it?

You don't have to own shares directly to be reliant on the dividends paid to private pension funds and very many ordinary people are in that situation never having bought shares in their lives. Do they not enter your mind either or are they fair game? It's another of those stereotypes which seeks to portray all shareholders as rich cigar smoking, caviar eating and champagne quaffing fat cats.

See plenty of stereo typing in this thread . Cameron even said himself you are either a worker or a shirker

Pick apart what I say by all means any chance of any feedback on the figures and evidence I have posted showing how much I believe the so called shirker actually takes from the tax payer ???

If you think the system as it stands is working then fair play to ya

[Osem]

You're fixated with 'shirkers', I'm not and I've already told you I'm not going over old ground again for your benefit - read this thread from the start if you want to know what I think.

You referred to shareholders and now can't even clarify what you're talking about. It's all very well banging on about Tesco and shareholders as if they're dirty words but it serves your argument no good because it's the same old simplistic nonsense and stereotyping we've all heard a million times before. You take exception to unfavourable stereotyping but indulge in it yourself whenever it suits. You're argument would be stronger if you avoided doing it.

Anyway those are my last words to you on this subject.

Originally Posted by Osem

Anyway those are my last words to you on this subject.

As they say on Strictly ... A-May-ZING.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chris

As they say on Strictly ... A-May-ZING.

Bad pennies have a habit...

[johnhook]

Originally Posted by Chris

As they say on Strictly ... A-May-ZING.

Knew I gave myself away should never had joined in here. Also forgot to turn my vpn on a couple of times but didn't know if my customer number had changed with new contracts

So what happens now ? Banned again or what ? already decided or debate needed?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by johnhook

Knew I gave myself away should never had joined in here. Also forgot to turn my vpn on a couple of times but didn't know if my customer number had changed with new contracts

So what happens now ? Banned again or what ? already decided or debate needed?

Why keep coming back if you don't like it?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Why keep coming back if you don't like it?

Masochism?

Originally Posted by johnhook

So what happens now ? Banned again or what ? already decided or debate needed?

No debate is required, you made sure of that with your rant last year.
The team have instructions to ban you immediatly your id is confirmed.

Everyone move on now please, back to the subject at hand.

[Gary L]

Tesco's want you to donate food to feed people in the UK
http://foodcollection.tesco.com/#together

What we really need is aid and food from America and such.
all the countries around the world can send the UK all their unwanted clothes and bric a brac.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Tesco's want you to donate food to feed people in the UK
http://foodcollection.tesco.com/#together

What we really need is aid and food from America and such.
all the countries around the world can send the UK all their unwanted clothes and bric a brac.

if you shop at tesco you can't afford to give anything away