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Old 16-06-2015, 13:16   #2716
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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This is exactly the sort of deal that I wish Virgin would do!
What, the same sort of excusive deal that you have criticised Sky for in regard to HBO exclusivity?
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Old 16-06-2015, 13:33   #2717
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I agree most providers over the Openreach network offer services of upto 80mb which is more than adequate for the majority of users.
I think 2gb is being tested in some areas too now. I night be wrong on that though.
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Old 16-06-2015, 13:47   #2718
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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What, the same sort of excusive deal that you have criticised Sky for in regard to HBO exclusivity?
Yes, passingbat, but you have to work within the system. I don't agree with deals that result in programmes being exclusive to a particular audience, although channels could be exclusive if other providers could pick up the programmes.

However, given that Sky are keeping SA and (for the time being) ITV Encore as exclusive and BT now appears to have AMC, VM have to fight back or they will lose a big proportion of their customer base eventually.

When cable launched 'The Studio', the channel was exclusive but the films could be bought up by other film channels. I do think that this is acceptable practice.
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Old 16-06-2015, 14:06   #2719
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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Yes, passingbat, but you have to work within the system. I don't agree with deals that result in programmes being exclusive to a particular audience, although channels could be exclusive if other providers could pick up the programmes.

However, given that Sky are keeping SA and (for the time being) ITV Encore as exclusive and BT now appears to have AMC, VM have to fight back or they will lose a big proportion of their customer base eventually.

When cable launched 'The Studio', the channel was exclusive but the films could be bought up by other film channels. I do think that this is acceptable practice.
Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense AMC UK will have exclusive programmes available to BT's under 2 million TV subscribers.
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Old 16-06-2015, 15:02   #2720
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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Yes, passingbat, but you have to work within the system. I don't agree with deals that result in programmes being exclusive to a particular audience, although channels could be exclusive if other providers could pick up the programmes.

However, given that Sky are keeping SA and (for the time being) ITV Encore as exclusive and BT now appears to have AMC, VM have to fight back or they will lose a big proportion of their customer base eventually.

When cable launched 'The Studio', the channel was exclusive but the films could be bought up by other film channels. I do think that this is acceptable practice.
What is the point of essentially buying exclusive naming rights for channels, if you no exclusive to content to put on it?
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Old 16-06-2015, 15:03   #2721
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Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense AMC UK will have exclusive programmes available to BT's under 2 million TV subscribers.
Obviously both BT and AMC hope to increase that sub numbers
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Old 16-06-2015, 15:24   #2722
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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Obviously both BT and AMC hope to increase that sub numbers
Absolutely , that wasn't my point it was the fact that Old Boy has on numerous occasions condemned Sky for it's exclusive Atlantic channel whilst telling us he agrees with BTs new channel and reckons Virgin Media should be doing similar , what's the difference ?
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Old 16-06-2015, 15:57   #2723
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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Absolutely , that wasn't my point it was the fact that Old Boy has on numerous occasions condemned Sky for it's exclusive Atlantic channel whilst telling us he agrees with BTs new channel and reckons Virgin Media should be doing similar , what's the difference ?
I agree with you. What perhaps he was trying to say is "if you can`t beat them you may as well join them". That was my take on his point anyway.
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Old 16-06-2015, 16:39   #2724
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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Old 16-06-2015, 20:18   #2725
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

BT are the new SKY!

Ultra HD channel, exclusive to BT customers. AMC exclusive to BT customers and a deal with HBO to make them first pay TV provider in the UK to offer customers buy-to-keep box sets of HBO programmes.

If this was SKY doing this there would be blue murder on here. I know as I once was one of the ringleaders

Must admit that it feels like BT and SKY have been the providers making the most noise over the past 6 months. I feel Virgin are long overdue another WOW moment in terms of TV. The first pay TV provider to offer Amazon Prime on their platform or the first pay TV provider to make HD standard for all subscribers on all packages for completely free. There's only so many times bumping up broadband speeds will excite customers. Time for a new trick?
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Old 16-06-2015, 20:29   #2726
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a deal with HBO to make them first pay TV provider in the UK to offer customers buy-to-keep box sets of HBO programmes.

Are these available at the same time as the DVDs are released in the UK, or earlier? What is pricing like, and what happens to the downloads if you leave BT? Are the available with 5.1 audio?

It sounds like a nice thing to claim, but I'm just wondering what are the advantages/disadvantages over buying the DVD/Blu-ray?
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Old 17-06-2015, 00:02   #2727
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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BT are the new SKY!

Ultra HD channel, exclusive to BT customers. AMC exclusive to BT customers and a deal with HBO to make them first pay TV provider in the UK to offer customers buy-to-keep box sets of HBO programmes.

If this was SKY doing this there would be blue murder on here. I know as I once was one of the ringleaders

Must admit that it feels like BT and SKY have been the providers making the most noise over the past 6 months. I feel Virgin are long overdue another WOW moment in terms of TV. The first pay TV provider to offer Amazon Prime on their platform or the first pay TV provider to make HD standard for all subscribers on all packages for completely free. There's only so many times bumping up broadband speeds will excite customers. Time for a new trick?
A stb that is fast and actually works would be nice.
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Old 17-06-2015, 00:24   #2728
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A stb that is fast and actually works would be nice.
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Old 17-06-2015, 09:29   #2729
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

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BT are the new SKY!

Ultra HD channel, exclusive to BT customers. AMC exclusive to BT customers and a deal with HBO to make them first pay TV provider in the UK to offer customers buy-to-keep box sets of HBO programmes.

If this was SKY doing this there would be blue murder on here. I know as I once was one of the ringleaders

Must admit that it feels like BT and SKY have been the providers making the most noise over the past 6 months. I feel Virgin are long overdue another WOW moment in terms of TV. The first pay TV provider to offer Amazon Prime on their platform or the first pay TV provider to make HD standard for all subscribers on all packages for completely free. There's only so many times bumping up broadband speeds will excite customers. Time for a new trick?
Agree 100% with you, VM definitely need to do something. People will ask what? But making HD variants for the packages customers have free, would be a good start.

VM could still keep BT Sport in the XL package, which would mean those who don't want it could take the L package but still get the HD variants of channels like Fox etc...
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Old 17-06-2015, 12:47   #2730
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

I have to agree, TIVO is not without problems, I do find it frustrating and slow sometimes, I gave up with the Netflix App, painful.

I'm in contract, but to be honest have started to look at other platforms, I've given TIVO a fair go, since it was released, but whilst it does have some good parts, it is flawed and clunky.
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