The state benefits system mega-thread.

[MalteseFalcon]

Benefits do need to be cut, except it seems to be the genuine cases getting hit and not the ones who should be kicked off benefits. People like that woman with 11 kids who is getting a bigger council house should have her benefits cut dramatically.

[progers]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Benefits do need to be cut, except it seems to be the genuine cases getting hit and not the ones who should be kicked off benefits. People like that woman with 11 kids who is getting a bigger council house should have her benefits cut dramatically.

Agreed Mark, did anyone watch "too fat to work" fatties stuffing themselves on kebabs, chips, burgers drinking 8 litres of coke per day on the £30,000 that we give them from our taxes to enable them to do that!

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by progers

Agreed Mark, did anyone watch "too fat to work" fatties stuffing themselves on kebabs, chips, burgers drinking 8 litres of coke per day on the £30,000 that we give them from our taxes to enable them to do that!

Well the benefits cap should help address that but IMHO it is capped at far to high a level.

Should be at 2/3 average take home pay and not a penny more.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by progers

Agreed Mark, did anyone watch "too fat to work" fatties stuffing themselves on kebabs, chips, burgers drinking 8 litres of coke per day on the £30,000 that we give them from our taxes to enable them to do that!

What is it with fat people and coke?
can't just drink any old pop. has to be coke.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Should be at 2/3 average take home pay and not a penny more.

We can mug the kids at the sweet shop if we have reason to believe they got a penny over on giro day

[denphone]

PIPs disability benefit delay unlawful, says High Court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33020987

[MarsBar]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Well the benefits cap should help address that but IMHO it is capped at far to high a level.

Should be at 2/3 average take home pay and not a penny more.

http://www.netsalarycalculator.co.uk

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Originally Posted by denphone

PIPs disability benefit delay unlawful, says High Court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33020987

Utterly ridiculous imo,but IDS said in the HoC in Februaty that everything was running smoothly,Channel 5 made a mockery of that statement.

[denphone]

George Osborne considering £5bn cuts to child tax credits.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33089711

Changes would cut entitlements for about 3.7 million low-income families by about £1,400 a year, the IFS said.

There is widespread concern inside Downing Street that the cuts are impossible to do while repositioning the Conservatives as the party of working people.

During the general election, Prime Minister David Cameron promised he would not be cutting many benefits - including the state pension, pensioner benefits, and child benefit.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

George Osborne considering £5bn cuts to child tax credits.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33089711

good news -if you can't afford to breed then don't expect the taxpayer to subsidise your life choices

[Gary L]

If Dave gets any stick over this. then I suggest he says "Difficult choices have to be made"
that will get him off.

and throw in "Hard Working People" a few times.
and "Great British People" that one makes us feel special.

[ianch99]

Tories consider cutting tax credits for working families despite election promise not to

Honest Dave:

If the cuts go ahead they would contradict statements made by David Cameron during the general election campaign.

Asked during a Question Time special whether tax credits and child benefit were at risk, Mr Cameron said he rejected the idea.

"I don't want to do that. This report that was out today is something I rejected at the time as prime minister and I reject again today," he told the audience.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Tories consider cutting tax credits for working families despite election promise not to

Honest Dave:

Errr ... that's not an election promise. That's someone saying "I don't want to". Not the same at all.

[Gary L]

I feel sorry for the people who voted him in thinking that he'll look after them and go for the others.

the lesson to be learned is 'Don't trust Dave' he hates you just as much as the 'others'

[MalteseFalcon]

You could say that about every politician though Gary. And Labour admitted that they would carry on the welfare system reforms if elected, so not just a case of Tories doing it. Miliband would have done it as well if elected.

[denphone]

It might not of been a promise but alas we all know most politicians talk with forked tongue be it from any party.

[johnhook]

cutting welfare will achieve nothing other than making the tax payer think the government are trying

600 billion tax and NI taken 11 billion paid to JSA and ESA less than 2% if you include housing benefits and tax credits it may increase to 5%

1.6 estimated lost in fraud 2 billion estimate loss to mistakes. The tax payer I believe pays less than a cheap Aldi loaf of bread to the workshy a week

I am all for a fair system I do not think a system where unemployed family can receive more than a working family is fair I also do not think a working family should need to claim benefits to live

We are screwed though because all the money sits at the top and only a trickle goes down to the workers the whole system is flawed

The attacks on the poor sick disabled and unemployed are measures simply to placate the tax paying voter it will not fix a thing