[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU - Page 3

**Hugh** · 27-05-2015, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Gavin78

Well look what Germany is doing with Greece they have them held to ransom, we dont want to be going down that road

The difference is that, as a populace, we (mostly) don't have a problem paying taxes, so our Government is (again, mostly) funded.

Ignitionnet · 27-05-2015, 12:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh

The difference is that, as a populace, we (mostly) don't have a problem paying taxes, so our Government is (again, mostly) funded.

That and we don't share a currency with Germany.

MarsBar · 05-06-2015, 01:17

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I agree it will happen but Cameron will lie through his back teeth to ensure 100% that we stay in. As for concessions from our masters in Brussels, they will give us a little bit here and a little bit there but in the end it will costs us far more than it does now.

I already now what i will vote and that's "get us to hell OUT"

Mmm,you mean like The Vow?

Vow,what vow,David wherefore art vow !!!

Sirius · 05-06-2015, 09:28

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Originally Posted by MarsBar

Mmm,you mean like The Vow?

Vow,what vow,David wherefore art vow !!!

They could hold the vote today or next year i don't care. I will vote NO whatever.

Osem · 05-06-2015, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Sirius

They could hold the vote today or next year i don't care. I will vote NO whatever.

Just make sure you read the question first.

**Chris** · 05-06-2015, 09:51

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Originally Posted by MarsBar

Mmm,you mean like The Vow?

Vow,what vow,David wherefore art vow !!!

You realise that the only people who still bang on about that are the ones who were always going to vote Yes anyway?

It's an interesting point though, isn't it. I am going to thoroughly enjoy listening to Wee Nippy Sturgeon and Fat Aleck tying themselves in semantic knots, trying to explain why a parliament in France and a bureaucracy in Belgium is good for Scotland, whereas continuing a three-centuries old union with a parliament at the other end of the A1 is supposedly bad.

Or perhaps the SNP secretly agrees with David Cameron, that continuing membership of the EU must require us to delete the phrase "ever closer union" from the relevant treaties.

Osem · 05-06-2015, 09:53

IMHO the drive to 'ever closer union' will result in the exact opposite, but not in any controlled manner.

Sirius · 05-06-2015, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Osem

Just make sure you read the question first.

What ever the question my answer will be to leave.

See below

denphone · 05-06-2015, 11:33

All you have to do now is get a NO imprint on your face now.

**Maggy** · 05-06-2015, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Osem

Just make sure you read the question first.

I read the last one..I do not recall being asked if I wanted to join a federated Europe.

denphone · 05-06-2015, 13:02

David Cameron will fail in bid to renegotiate Britain's membership of the EU, predicts former Tory chancellor.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10298853.html

MarsBar · 05-06-2015, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Sirius

They could hold the vote today or next year i don't care. I will vote NO whatever.

Didn't you think it rather odd as to why London sent up its troops two days before the referendum,the day before that the YES we're ahead in one of the major polls,then out came Hen Broon with his scare tactics regarding pensioners,ans some clown who couldn't see the Wood for the oil claiming it was about to run dry only for him to retract his claim,then we had the good old warmongers from the OO marching through Edinburgh shouting No Surrender,not forgetting the Blatently Biased Company who are still the same.

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Originally Posted by Chris

You realise that the only people who still bang on about that are the ones who were always going to vote Yes anyway?

It's an interesting point though, isn't it. I am going to thoroughly enjoy listening to Wee Nippy Sturgeon and Fat Aleck tying themselves in semantic knots, trying to explain why a parliament in France and a bureaucracy in Belgium is good for Scotland, whereas continuing a three-centuries old union with a parliament at the other end of the A1 is supposedly bad.

Or perhaps the SNP secretly agrees with David Cameron, that continuing membership of the EU must require us to delete the phrase "ever closer union" from the relevant treaties.

Scotland will vote overwhelmingly for the EU,trust me on that.
As for NS ever agreeing with DC,no chance.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

What ever the question my answer will be to leave.

See below

Really?
Last night I was sitting listening to one of my favourite bands,Genesis.
One of the tracks from the album Selling England by the pound was called 'Suppers ready,' by chance the next song was from the Tresspass cd called 'Stagnation,' I found it rather appropriate because this is what is happening right now,the supper isn't ready,i.e.foodbanks,the country is stagnating,i.e.austerity.

Osem · 05-06-2015, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Sirius

What ever the question my answer will be to leave.

See below

Yes I rather got that impression.

**Chris** · 05-06-2015, 14:12

This a discussion about the EU referendum. Aside from obvious crossovers in the arguments, discussion about Scotland 2014 is off topic. We are not going to re-run the Scottish referendum in this thread, so please stop trying.

Osem · 05-06-2015, 14:22

Stagnation? Times are still tough of course but, compared to large chunks, of Europe the UK's doing rather well it appears to me. That's one reason why there's so much migration from the EU.

The judgement we're all facing is whether the UK is going to do better with or without the confines of EU membership.