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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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They need someone who can reach out to those many millions who did not vote for them in the General Election and sadly that person is not available currently.
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some one with a flat cap fut northern voters and a Rolls Royce for the southern voters .
a brown ale socialist
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17-05-2015, 08:30
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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some one with a flat cap fut northern voters and a Rolls Royce for the southern voters .
a brown ale socialist
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Oh you do come out with some old fashioned stereotypes sometimes papa. 
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17-05-2015, 08:53
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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Oh you do come out with some old fashioned stereotypes sometimes papa. |
the thing is people fromt gutter don't trust rich toffs to act in their interest rich folk don't live in back to back housing with an alleyway full of old furniture and tut bins ont street .
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17-05-2015, 09:19
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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the thing is people fromt gutter don't trust rich toffs to act in their interest rich folk don't live in back to back housing with an alleyway full of old furniture and tut bins ont street .
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Or work 27hrs a day a t' mill an pay t' owners for t' privilege. 
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17-05-2015, 09:21
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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Or work 27hrs a day a t' mill an pay t' owners for t' privilege. |
there is no work unless your tut polish and work for nobut a crust wit a smudge of gaffers dripping on it
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17-05-2015, 10:48
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
Just been listening to a remarkably moderate sounding Len McCluskey and Mary Creagh on John Pienaar's BBC radio programme. Don't you just love it how a taste of defeat appears to moderate some of those union leaders with fairly extreme views. If only it were in any way sincere...
As for Mary Creagh, as expected, she was passed the leadership election ball and fumbled it badly IMHO. In referenece to Miliband's 'ed stone', the vague 'promises' thereon and Labour's failure to connect with enough of the electorate, she was asked what single policy she felt could have transformed the party's fortunes. Her answer was to forget the promise to slash tuition fees and to give all students free bus passes. With visionary policies like that can anyone see her leading the party to election success... 
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17-05-2015, 10:56
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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Just been listening to a remarkably moderate sounding Len McCluskey and Mary Creagh on John Pienaar's BBC radio programme. D on't you just love it how a taste of defeat appears to moderate some of those union leaders with fairly extreme views. If only it were in any way sincere...
As for Mary Creagh, as expected, she was passed the leadership election ball and fumbled it badly IMHO. In referenece to Miliband's 'ed stone', the vague 'promises' thereon and Labour's failure to connect with enough of the electorate, she was asked what single policy she felt could have transformed the party's fortunes. Her answer was to forget the promise to slash tuition fees and to give all students free bus passes. With visionary policies like that can anyone see her leading the party to election success... |
that's it everybody out 
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17-05-2015, 11:10
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
As for Umunna's expose, well from what I've seen, the worst that can be said is that he appears to rather like living the life of a typical public school Tory toff whilst trying to appear to be another of those Labour 'men of the people' like Mandelson.
Nothing too outrageous then but given the never ending criticism bile the typical Tory toff attracts from Labour politicians, I'd say privately emulating their lavish lifestyles isn't likely to go down very well with the workers whose side you're supposedly on and whose problems you claim you sooooo empathise with.
Why is it that Labour 'socialists' love champagne?
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17-05-2015, 11:19
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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As for Umunna's expose, well from what I've seen, the worst that can be said is that he appears to rather like living the life of a typical public school Tory toff whilst trying to appear to be another of those 'men of the people'.
Nothing too outrageous then but given the never ending criticism bile the typical Tory toff attracts from Labour politicians, I'd say privately emulating their lavish lifestyles isn't likely to go down very well with the workers whose side you're supposedly on and whose problems you claim you sooooo empathise with.
Why is it that Labour 'socialists' love champagne?
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Exposed! Chuck-it-in Chuka's shady secret: Labour MP belongs to members-only 'den' where he has his own £300 cognac locker and a bar named after him - so is this what rattled leadership contender?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3aOE6Q49k
no its cognac that floats one's boat
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17-05-2015, 11:24
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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Why is it that Labour 'socialists' love champagne?
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Idiots on twitter retweeting a picture of champagne being delivered in Downing street as illustration of Tory toffs living it up after the election when the picture ACTUALLY came from 2004.
Twit link
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17-05-2015, 11:31
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
Are they posting images of chipped mugs of tea being delivered to Labour HQ?
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17-05-2015, 13:11
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
Here are some polls done after the election by YouGov and the Sunday Times.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...15_Website.pdf
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17-05-2015, 17:47
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
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but we all know how meaningful polls are? I am suprised that they wheeled one out so soon after the polls were proved so wrong ..
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17-05-2015, 23:50
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
Ten pages later and still no answer. WHO will lead the Labour Party? None of those mentioned so far are any good. Andy Burham seemed to think he was at a job interview on Andrew Marr this morning.
Looks like a continuity candidate is all that's on offer at the moment unless UKIP lend them Nigel Farage
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18-05-2015, 09:20
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
Well I have my vote for this particular election. Hope it works out well. Government is way better with a decent opposition to press them.
I give it about a month before I am kicked out of the Party, mind. I suspect I'm way too small 'l' liberal.
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Shame Hilary Benn ruled himself out.
http://labourlist.org/2015/05/making...ushing-defeat/
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