How big are VM's infills?
14-04-2015, 21:09
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Well, I'm sure incompetence plays a part but the most recent delay was due to some case being taken all the way up to the supreme court to demand the right to object to the government's plans...
To some extent I'd prefer the system in use in Switzerland, where public policy decisions are made directly by the voting public, not the politicians. Public interest seizures and/or works should of course provide adequate compensation for those who lose property but having major projects get held up for years going around the houses in the court system over a technicality is ludicrous.
I'm still impressed how China have gone from virtually no high speed rail at all to the biggest high speed rail network in the world over the course of barely a decade. Partly helped by the government's tendency to make people disappear when they object.
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Yes, you have to admire a Communist dictatorship's ability to (literally) bulldoze people out of the way ...
I'm not sure your complaints about the hold-up in Aberdeen are compatible with your admiration for Swiss-style direct democracy. The Swiss are legendary for getting nothing done at all, thanks to the number of referendums that result in a proposal being struck down.
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15-04-2015, 01:11
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Perhaps, but when everyone but one votes one way that one last guy does not get the opportunity to hold things up for a few years while challenging the validity of the decision.
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15-04-2015, 11:21
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Yes, you have to admire a Communist dictatorship's ability to (literally) bulldoze people out of the way ... 
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Not always:
Can you imagine the uproar in this country if that happened to a NIMBY?
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21-04-2015, 11:51
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
It begins.
Description:
Excavate and install new Virgin Media network duct in footway and carriageway to connect properties and build associated boxes and cabinets
Start Date:
05/05/2015
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18/05/2015
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21-04-2015, 23:29
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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It begins.
Description:
Excavate and install new Virgin Media network duct in footway and carriageway to connect properties and build associated boxes and cabinets
Start Date:
05/05/2015
End Date:
18/05/2015
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Where too? Are you a planner?
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22-04-2015, 01:49
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Where too? Are you a planner?
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I wouldn't have the first clue where to start as a planner.
Just your average punter.
Middleton, Leeds, LS10.
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22-04-2015, 06:53
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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I wouldn't have the first clue where to start as a planner.
Just your average punter.
Middleton, Leeds, LS10.
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Ahhh fair enough. You seem to know your stuff, are you staff? Or just know a bit about hfc?
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22-04-2015, 11:39
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Ahhh fair enough. You seem to know your stuff, are you staff? Or just know a bit about hfc?
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I was staff way back when.
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02-05-2015, 20:53
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Seems plans are in for 5th May to 2nd June. Expecting to see some more appear for back end of May in the not too distant.
Listed as part of Project Lightning, though I think all infill works have been rolled into Lightning now.
Be interesting to see how many 'bodies' VM throw at this project. Doesn't look like it's too many just yet though it is very early days in the programme.
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19-05-2015, 16:26
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Looks like it's really starting to get going.
Project Lightning is a real thing after all. All the telephone symbols are VM network build. Started off with 2nd 2 images for May - June then ramping up with 1st picture in August. The last two are simple infill connecting to existing CMTS, etc, the first one is a combination of a couple of things. Orphan (not connected to anything) plant having chambers and cabinets built around existing ducting, cabling put into those previously built ducts, customer drops built as required, then connection to the rest of the VM network is one. Lastly new network for infill where the orphaned build abruptly stopped or cannot be used, and there is a fair amount of this too. Two of the new build streets alone are 2km worth of new network ducts; then there's cabling, cabinets and customer drops to come off that new network duct.
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19-05-2015, 17:08
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
Is that map specific to your local council? Or is it available for all councils? Thanks.
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19-05-2015, 17:11
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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Is that map specific to your local council? Or is it available for all councils? Thanks.
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http://roadworks.org/
They have data for many councils.
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20-05-2015, 00:07
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
A bunch more have arrived. Even though I won't be covered I am pretty psyched. This is very promising for other areas just through the scale of the build.
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20-05-2015, 09:54
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
How many homes would you estimate they are adding in that build then?
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20-05-2015, 10:03
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Re: How big are VM's infills?
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How many homes would you estimate they are adding in that build then?
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The total build is about 9,000 premises all told. Those aren't all of it, more were added earlier today which represent about 1/3rd of it I would guesstimate.
This is, of course, a tiny fraction of the overall Lightning project.
The top image above now looks like this - each phone is a street getting cabled:
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