2015 UK General Election Thread

Originally Posted by Damien

Seems fair enough doesn't it? Isn't there a certain allowance of income via things like eBay and so on before it's taxable?

I would imagine it will be taken into consideration with anyone's earnings, and taxed accordingly - not sure if there is an exemption amount....

[techguyone]

Bit of a grey area, I know for some time now people making money on E bay or 'micro payments' on Pay pal would only escape notice for so long, it takes them a while, but eventually the Govt gets wise to these things.

Originally Posted by Hugh

I would imagine it will be taken into consideration with anyone's earnings, and taxed accordingly - not sure if there is an exemption amount....

I think it qualifies as capital gains and, again I think, that you have a personal allowance equivalent to the income tax personal allowance before tax is applied.

People won't be filling tax returns on old stuff they sold off on eBay. I imagine the law would be looking at people doing full time trading via these services. That said if you're selling at a loss then it's not capital gains at all.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I will join in on this bit. Many members may forget that several months ago, many Tv stars and so called comics were stung by a company that put there money into oversea's companies to avoid paying large amounts of tax.

Well this new idea by Labour will put money back into the UK.

I work, pay taxes and therefore so should other people. wether they have 3 beds or 12 beds. They should pay what we are paying.

If you are a multi millionaire then you should pay more tax. Its like that so called singer Glass, saying that she wont pay the Mansion Tax - WHY, if she lives in a five or six bed mansion then why wont she pay the Mansion Tax. Its ok for the Tories to make us pay the Bedroom Tax as we have a 'spare room' then why shouldn't millionairse pay the Mansion Tax.

There is a house near me in Twickenham - it has recently sold for FIVE MILLION quid, and has FIVE bedrooms.

The person who bought this, probably earns more in a minute, then we do in a week

Arthur, you do realise the evil Tories (always on the side of the rich) raised Stamp Duty on that type of house from 7% to 12% (and it was 5% under Labour), don't you?

So the Stamp Duty on the £5,000,000 house is £513,750, rather than the approx. £250,000 under the previous Labour administration - doesn't seem to support your premise....

It's starting to slip away from the Tories. Several polls today all showing the same movement:

Survation:

LAB 35% (+2)
CON 31% (-1)
UKIP 15% (-3)
LD 9% (NC)
SNP 4% (NC)
GRE 4% (+2)

TNS:

LAB 33% (+1)
CON 30% (-3)
LD 8% (0)
UKIP 19% (+3)
GREEN 4% (-1)

Panelbase:

LAB 37% (+4%)
CON 31% (-2%)
UKIP 16% (-1%)
LD 8% (+1%)
GRN 4% (-1%

http://politicalbetting.com

If this goes into the Election then Labour would be close to a Majority even with their problems in Scotland. Certainly enough to do a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and more than enough with the SNP.

The Conservatives need to do something to change the momentum. They're more high rated on the economy and yet their still losing. Miliband is catching up in the personal ratings on Cameron, the debates are helping him, but the Tories should still be clear ahead.

Their hope seems to be that people will turn off Miliband at the last moment and UKIP's vote will collapse in favour of the Tories but the former is going to be unlikely if Miliband's personal ratings keep improving.

[denphone]

The Tories need to do less of the negative personal campaigning and more of why should people vote for them because at the moment their campaign is faltering quite a bit.

[Hom3r]

I've already had enough to the point I don't know if I can be arsed to vote.

The idiot torys still blaming Labour 5 years later.

The bimbo in charge of the SNP who still wants to break the union despite most Scots not wanting to.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by denphone

The Tories need to do less of the negative personal campaigning and more of why should people vote for them because at the moment their campaign is faltering quite a bit.

They are rather lacking in positive reasons to vote for them beyond some vague promise of tax cuts and the promise to cut the welfare bill while not touching the biggest recipients of the welfare state, ensuring all the pain falls on a smaller group.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

It has now started to be a slanging match between Labour and The Tories.

Instead of Cameron and co doing an election campaign with the big boys, instead they are slagging off a man, who won the vote over his brother.

We have Osborne saying what Labour done damage when they were in power. He forges that every Tory government that has been in power, has ripped this country to bits, and it has cost money, to put things back on the trail for recover.

Look at Thatcher, she tore everything up, and gave it to the rich. And demolished the most talg about thing - the NHS. and education etc etc.

Cameron has done exactly the same. Soon as they got into power. They caused riots with students - putting up fee's so that students would be out priced and in debt.

Then Universal Credit, Bedroom Tax etc etc.

IF Cameron had axed the Bedroom Tax, they may have had a chance. But then they don't care - do they

Originally Posted by denphone

The Tories need to do less of the negative personal campaigning and more of why should people vote for them because at the moment their campaign is faltering quite a bit.

The Tories have Lynton Crosby running their campaign and he seems to have taken them into quite a negative direction. This presumably with the idea the people will look at Miliband and recoil as they enter the ballot box.

Some Tories are worried about the campaign thinking Cameron has not allowed to be more positive and has too much faith in Crosby's strategy. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10094564.html

The Conservatives went into the election with a recovering economy, a leader who was rating much better than Miliband, and a party with no clear message who stand to lose a massive bedrock of support in Scotland. Yet they are falling behind in the polls. If they've made it all about Miliband being an idiot and voters decide he isn't then they're in serious trouble.

If they lose this election it will have to be one of the most spectacular failures of electoral strategy we've seen. I read the other day that no party has ever failed to win a majority where they've been rated higher on the economy and leadership.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Damien

If they lose this election it will have to be one of the most spectacular failures of electoral strategy we've seen. I read the other day that no party has ever failed to win a majority where they've been rated higher on the economy and leadership.

This is, however, a party that failed to win a majority in 2010 which was a pretty spectacular failure in its own right.

Evidently they haven't learned much.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I think UKIP will do much better, then what people think. Already they are shown as the THIRD party. And that Clegg, will lose his seat.

Don't be too surprised that on the day, there will be more seats for Farage. If l was a betting man - I would money on Farage hitting some Tory seats and coming out on top

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think UKIP will do much better, then what people think. Already they are shown as the THIRD party. And that Clegg, will lose his seat.

Don't be too surprised that on the day, there will be more seats for Farage. If l was a betting man - I would money on Farage hitting some Tory seats and coming out on top

Coming out top of what? They won't win the election.

UKIP will see their vote being squeezed out by the Tories. Especially when they see that Labour would well win the election or at least be a minority Government via the SNP. That will send more voters to the Tory camp. It's already been happening to an extent, UKIP have been declining in the polls since the new year.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

This is, however, a party that failed to win a majority in 2010 which was a pretty spectacular failure in its own right.

Evidently they haven't learned much.

Do you think they have a fundamental problem or just suck at politics?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I can see this happening. And yes l am serious.

Labour
UKIP
Conservative
Lib Dems with Clegg forced to resign

At the moment polls are showing a 3/4 point difference between Labour /Tory with UKIP at 18% and Libs a dim 8%

Who would have thought that

And l feel that, there will be a fight between SNP (Labour will lose most seats in Scotland, that has seen Labour Voters) of Cameron / Miliband talking with that sexy SNP Sturgeon for the best deal to gain power