2015 UK General Election Thread - Page 20

**Chris** · 02-04-2015, 14:45

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wouldn't be so sure about article 50 saving the day

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance...y-for-britain/

I don't see anything in that article that precludes it - just a reasonably even-handed assessment of the ups and downs of the mechanism (Despite Open Europe being pro-EU in outlook).

nashville · 02-04-2015, 15:15

If we all leave the EU they cannot stop trading without us. We were fine before they came along

TheDaddy · 02-04-2015, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Chris

I don't see anything in that article that precludes it - just a reasonably even-handed assessment of the ups and downs of the mechanism (Despite Open Europe being pro-EU in outlook).

I never said it would preclude it just prevent us getting a favourable deal upon leaving

**Chris** · 02-04-2015, 20:17

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I never said it would preclude it just prevent us getting a favourable deal upon leaving

It does no such thing. You need to read the article again. The thrust of it is this: the process set out in Article 50 is untested, and there are reasons for the EU to make life difficult for the UK, just as there are reasons for them to be accommodating. Nothing is prevented. Sorry.

TheDaddy · 03-04-2015, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Chris

It does no such thing. You need to read the article again. The thrust of it is this: the process set out in Article 50 is untested, and there are reasons for the EU to make life difficult for the UK, just as there are reasons for them to be accommodating. Nothing is prevented. Sorry.

What you apologising for, I've wanted us to leave for years, it's not your fault we're staying in, just don't be under any illusions that we'll get an easy ride or favourable terms getting out but then nothing worth doing is ever easy

denphone · 03-04-2015, 07:14

What did people think of the televised debates last night as l quite enjoyed having seven politicians from different persuasions up there.

papa smurf · 03-04-2015, 07:45

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Originally Posted by denphone

What did people think of the televised debates last night as l quite enjoyed having seven politicians from different persuasions up there.

a great performance from Nigel
a good performance from Ed
a lackluster performance from Dave
the Scottish thing did ok
the welshie was just whining
and greenie is just crackers
and nickie boy's career is over

Sirius · 03-04-2015, 07:46

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Originally Posted by denphone

What did people think of the televised debates last night as l quite enjoyed having seven politicians from different persuasions up there.

There was a televised debate, i did not watch it and have no intention of watching any political clap trap shown over the next few weeks.

**Damien** · 03-04-2015, 07:52

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Originally Posted by denphone

What did people think of the televised debates last night as l quite enjoyed having seven politicians from different persuasions up there.

The SNP won me £40. I had £5 on Stugeon winning.

LondonRoad · 03-04-2015, 08:17

I thought the Heckler won it for me

Natalie Bennett looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights so I don't think anybody thinking of voting Greens would have been persuaded on that show. Much of the substance was lost in the poor delivery.

The big two performed as expected. The election couldn't be won last night so getting Dave and Ed through the debate without any major errors was as much as their teams would have hoped for.

I think Cleggy had to produce something special if the Lib Dems were to have even a slight chance of not being decimated. He didn't produce so the battle for 3rd largest party is up for grabs.

The 2 nationalist woman performed will and may have won some admirers.... although many of the admirers won't be able to vote for the nationalist parties!

Farage will appeal to those who have already made their minds up to vote UKIP and may have persuaded a few more who were considering it. In terms of potential votes gained he's probably the winner on the night....... God help us

MalteseFalcon · 03-04-2015, 09:17

And people wonder why Cameron was reluctant to take part in a debate. Like said before, the incumbent is ALWAYS on the back foot with these debates. Look at Brown in 2010.

heero_yuy · 03-04-2015, 09:46

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

And people wonder why Cameron was reluctant to take part in a debate. Like said before, the incumbent is ALWAYS on the back foot with these debates. Look at Brown in 2010.

Yes but he was a complete <insert your luridly descriptive nouns here>

Cameron was lucky in the draw to get the end spot whereas Ed Two Kitchens was in the middle taking flak from all sides.

Don't think we've learn't anything that we didn't know already. London Road's analysis basically says it for me.

techguyone · 03-04-2015, 10:07

The thing that I hate about these dinky Nationalist parties is... 'I'd this for Scotland/Wales...'

Thing is, I live in Great Britain. I want something good for us all not just selected bits of Geography.

papa smurf · 03-04-2015, 10:19

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Originally Posted by techguyone

The thing that I hate about these dinky Nationalist parties is... 'I'd this for Scotland/Wales...'

Thing is, I live in Great Britain. I want something good for us all not just selected bits of Geography.

nashville · 03-04-2015, 10:29

I thought it was just the same old ( they done this and they done that) sort of thing, I believe Clegg has no chance, I hope Cameron does not get in, Ed was quite good .it may be one of these two who get most votes, Nicola is to much in demand for separation and just a nippy sweetly Farage, is they only one who talks sense on immigration he might cause a few upsets in England . I will always vote Labour, So no change for me,