Superhub 200Mbit coming soon? (According to a survey) - Page 18

Mr K · 02-04-2015, 00:43

So what would 200/300MB allow you to do that you can't do now? At some point it becomes pointless.

Sephiroth · 02-04-2015, 08:03

It will allow you to watch VM wave its willy at BT.

pip08456 · 02-04-2015, 09:10

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It will allow you to watch VM wave its willy at BT.

Except 300mbps is Infinity 4 speed.

Ignitionnet · 02-04-2015, 09:16

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Except 300mbps is Infinity 4 speed.

Available in all of ~160,000 premises nationwide, a large proportion of which, perhaps half or more, were subsidised by taxpayers.

Fair to say for the other 99.7% of the country seeing the advertising the comparison in their minds is between VM and Infinity 2.

Sephiroth · 02-04-2015, 09:24

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Except 300mbps is Infinity 4 speed.

October 2015 VM vs when BT?

Kushan · 02-04-2015, 09:26

Probably around when 3.1 goes into testing.

General Maximus · 02-04-2015, 09:35

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I have a very strong suspicion you are wrong there, Sir.

really? how interesting

MagicUK · 02-04-2015, 10:07

So I reckon they virgin is increasing upload channels from 2-4 then can start offering faster up speeds. Looks like I'm gonna commit to another 18months with cable, in that time gfast may be here or even virgin could roll out this RfOG tech or would they go straight to 3.1?

Ignitionnet · 02-04-2015, 10:24

Virgin aren't going to overbuild any existing areas with RFoG any time soon. RFoG runs DOCSIS anyways.

Some new build might get RFoG, but will have the same DOCSIS services running on it as existing equipment for now.

DOCSIS 3.1 isn't going to be a big 'thing' in production for a while yet. There is some work to be done on the physical networks, which is in progress, before 3.1 can really shine. Along with that the customer equipment, modems, set top boxes, isn't really there yet.

G.fast will be about in 2016 but delivered to a very, very few premises indeed on a commercial basis, and the form it'll come in is unknown. It may be based out of existing cabinets in which case unless you're very close to yours you're SOOL.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

So what would 200/300MB allow you to do that you can't do now? At some point it becomes pointless.

Much of what you do now but more quickly.

In my own case things like when I want to purchase a PS4 game online in digital format, many of them are >40GB. Were I able to get an ultrafast service I would have more immediate gratification as 40GB at the speed 300Mb has been capped at in the trial would take 17 minutes.

At my current performance on my above-average VDSL it takes 5 times that.

Kushan · 02-04-2015, 10:33

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G.fast will be about in 2016 but delivered to a very, very few premises indeed on a commercial basis, and the form it'll come in is unknown. It may be based out of existing cabinets in which case unless you're very close to yours you're SOOL.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but it sounds like you're saying that the g.fast node might be deployed in existing cabs? I don't think that's right, it would completely defeat the purpose of g.fast.
I think it'll be more a case of deployment happens where FTTC is already in place as g.fast is designed to work with FTTC present (or at least, it can account for it without interfering).

Ignitionnet · 02-04-2015, 10:40

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I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but it sounds like you're saying that the g.fast node might be deployed in existing cabs? I don't think that's right, it would completely defeat the purpose of g.fast.
I think it'll be more a case of deployment happens where FTTC is already in place as g.fast is designed to work with FTTC present (or at least, it can account for it without interfering).

I was speaking about G.fast in 2016.

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Update 12:10pm In response to a few questions we have learnt that some G.fast nodes may be deployed from the fibre cabinets, the advantage being that DC power is available.

This year's pilot will test deployment scenarios and it'll become clearer at that time how Openreach are deploying. I would not be surprised if the 2016/7 financial year deployment is small, as they are still building out for BDUK, and tackling the easier stuff first which means where power and backhaul are easily available.

Kushan · 02-04-2015, 11:03

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This year's pilot will test deployment scenarios and it'll become clearer at that time how Openreach are deploying. I would not be surprised if the 2016/7 financial year deployment is small, as they are still building out for BDUK, and tackling the easier stuff first which means where power and backhaul are easily available.

Yuck. I can't see that being particularly great, but what can you do.

Ignitionnet · 02-04-2015, 11:28

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Yuck. I can't see that being particularly great, but what can you do.

Wait for them to crack fibre to distribution points and work out how they are going to power the nodes.

Kushan · 02-04-2015, 11:40

I vaguely remember reading that one potential method of powering the nodes would be from the customer end, via the "modem".

Ignitionnet · 02-04-2015, 12:24

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I vaguely remember reading that one potential method of powering the nodes would be from the customer end, via the "modem".

That's a way away. The world's first public demo of a reverse powered G.fast node was only this year.