29-03-2015, 14:37
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
the problem with the last labour government was they simply ran out of other peoples money to spend .
if they can find a new source of other peoples money to waste their in with a shot until the goose that lays the golden egg dies like the last one did .
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29-03-2015, 15:46
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
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they didn't double it in 5 years like tories 
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Really?
UK Debt as % GDP
2002 - Public Net Debt = 38% of GDP
2010 - Public Net Debt = 68% of GDP, a growth of 79%
2015 - Public Net Debt = 90%% of GDP, a growth of 32%
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Andrew Neil interviewing Lucy Powell, vice-chair of the 2015 General Election campaign.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02n0pk9
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29-03-2015, 20:10
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
I believe that everyone is entitled to a mistake. The biggest problem is since the Tories came into power has been, they have achieve only one thing, helping the rich get richer.
In Miliband, l believe we have a man that has accepted mistakes that the previous Labour made, but he will support the working person of this country
When l was growing up, l lived in poverty. And l mean poverty. I never dreamed that a 'rich' country like the UK, is going back into poverty - with food banks, which have grown crazy since Cameron came in.
Clegg has no chance of winning any votes, with UKIP coming third I cannot wait to cast my vote
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29-03-2015, 21:27
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
Labour know full well that they can spout the same load of tired old tosh and a good number of sad naïve idiots will buy it no matter what. The last thing they want is a well educated populace capable of supporting themselves and actually taking responsibility for their actions. They'd much rather buy votes through social engineering, by locking people into hideously convoluted state benefits and by creating pubic sector non-jobs in Labour areas. All of this whilst being 'intensely relaxed' in private about the sort of wealth and privilege they secretly aspire to but spend so much time condemning in public.
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30-03-2015, 10:15
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
Labour is set to make sweeping gains in London with both Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs losing their seats, according to a new opinion poll.
http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-...st-for-london/
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30-03-2015, 10:16
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
Meet Alyssa - voting Labour because "Labour help people on benefits".
Straight from the horse's mouth: http://order-order.com/2015/03/30/la...e-on-benefits/
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30-03-2015, 10:33
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
I have always voted Labour and that will not change I only hope that the SNP Don,t take too many of their seats, Just cannot trust them, they have divided Scotland and if they get more power they will never be content till they break up GB.
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30-03-2015, 10:36
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
Believe it or not, I've never voted Labour but this time out I have to, in order to fight against the risk of the Seps taking my constituency. The Labour incumbent is retiring, which makes it doubly risky.
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30-03-2015, 10:50
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
Does an increase in food banks indicate an increase in need or an increase in awareness of need?
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30-03-2015, 10:54
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
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Originally Posted by Chris
Believe it or not, I've never voted Labour but this time out I have to, in order to fight against the risk of the Seps taking my constituency. The Labour incumbent is retiring, which makes it doubly risky.
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Vote in accordance with your principles, not tactics.
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30-03-2015, 11:01
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
I linked earlier to the Andrew Neil interview with Lucy Powell (the person running Labour's election campaign), and reading in today's papers, one of the things she said to Andrew Neil was
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“in the real world where I live, unlike where you live and many other people in the media and the Tories”.
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This is amusing from someone who's real-life work experience is -
Degree from Oxford, BSc from Kings College London
Worked at Labour Party HQ during 1997 General Election
Parliamentary Assistant to Beverley Hughes MP
PR person/Head of Regional Campaigning/Campaign Director at pressure group Britain in Europe
PR role/Manchester Innovation Fund manager in qango National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts
Campaign Manager for Ed Miliband's Leadership campaign
Acting/Deputy Chief of Staff for Ed Miliband
Member of Parliament for Manchester Central
Shadow Cabinet Office Minister & Vice-Chair Labour 2015 General Election Campaign
She obviously has a different opinion what the "real world" is than the rest of us....
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30-03-2015, 11:07
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
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Vote in accordance with your principles, not tactics.
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That's not possible. No politician and no party is an exact match for anyone. Politics is the art of the possible, for voters as much as for the representatives we elect. The best we can hope for is a reasonable match between our own aspirations and those of the candidate we vote for. In my case, my overriding aspiration is to keep separatists out. That aspiration is best met by the unionist candidate best placed to win in my constituency. Here, that means voting Labour. A Tory vote, while unionist, is utterly wasted.
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30-03-2015, 11:32
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
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Originally Posted by Chris
That's not possible. No politician and no party is an exact match for anyone. Politics is the art of the possible, for voters as much as for the representatives we elect. The best we can hope for is a reasonable match between our own aspirations and those of the candidate we vote for. In my case, my overriding aspiration is to keep separatists out. That aspiration is best met by the unionist candidate best placed to win in my constituency. Here, that means voting Labour. A Tory vote, while unionist, is utterly wasted.
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Understood; however, every vote is a statement of preference; even a 'wasted' vote counts toward the whole.
It is a personal choice of course; your vote, your right to choose.
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30-03-2015, 12:29
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
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Vote in accordance with your principles, not tactics.
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My principles are under no circumstances am I doing anything that would make it more likely for the SNP to be my MP. If that means tactical voting for this election then so be it.
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30-03-2015, 12:59
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
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Originally Posted by Hugh
I linked earlier to the Andrew Neil interview with Lucy Powell (the person running Labour's election campaign), and reading in today's papers, one of the things she said to Andrew Neil was
This is amusing from someone who's real-life work experience is -
Degree from Oxford, BSc from Kings College London
Worked at Labour Party HQ during 1997 General Election
Parliamentary Assistant to Beverley Hughes MP
PR person/Head of Regional Campaigning/Campaign Director at pressure group Britain in Europe
PR role/Manchester Innovation Fund manager in qango National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts
Campaign Manager for Ed Miliband's Leadership campaign
Acting/Deputy Chief of Staff for Ed Miliband
Member of Parliament for Manchester Central
Shadow Cabinet Office Minister & Vice-Chair Labour 2015 General Election Campaign
She obviously has a different opinion what the "real world" is than the rest of us....
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Yet another example, if any were needed, of the sort of populist crap these people come out with in order to make them appear to be what they're not whilst portraying anyone who disagrees with them as an out of touch toff or something similar. They've been doing it for years and my only surprise is that people still fall for it. It's nice to see that the sneering and name calling are still the first port of call for these people when their 'facts' are exposed for the nonsense they are...
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