Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.

[Mr Angry]

"Britain’s failure to build affordable homes has led to a soaring housing-benefit bill – with half a million more people now relying on state handouts to pay their rent than when the coalition came to power, a damning new analysis reveals".

Facts.

[alanbjames]

There are homes out there fit for occupation. Its just this bloody bedroom tax makes then less affordable.

[heero_yuy]

Not enough houses vs too many immigrants. Take your choice.

We can't keep concreting over the South East just to keep pace with the uncontrolled population growth.

We could do with not allowing non dom investors buying up housing stock at silly prices and refusing to rent it out..

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Not enough houses vs too many immigrants. Take your choice.

We can't keep concreting over the South East just to keep pace with the uncontrolled population growth.

No! No! No! We clearly need hundreds of thousands more people turning up here every year just to ensure that we can run the NHS, staff our care homes, pay for our pensions, man all those car washes, etc. etc. In no way do/will any of them add to the problems they've so thoughtfully come here to solve by growing old, getting ill, needing schools/housing, receiving benefits, requiring pensions, emitting carbon... No, when the time comes and having given their best years to the UK and selflessly put a great deal more in than they've taken out, we can rest assured they'll all go back home thereby never becoming a burden on UK PLC themselves...


There clearly is a point beyond which population growth will stifle the UK so do we wait for the country to grind to a halt before we act to control immigration etc. or do we make the decisions whilst we can reasonably accommodate and support the needs of the population we have whilst maintaining our quality of life? Right now very few people seem willing to even accept the basic premise let alone try to get to grips with it before it's too late.

Immigration may contribute to housing but it's no where near as clear cut as that. They've even been blamed for falling house prices.

https://fullfact.org/factchecks/immi...e_prices-28673
http://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/top-ten/8-housing

We're getting to the point where irrespective of the story immigrations are the cause of it. Even contradictory problems.

[nomadking]

When did rent levels determine whether somebody is eligible for Housing Benefit? It is income and savings that determine it.

It is cases like a couple coming over here from the Czech Republic with their TWENTY TWO children(some adult) and grandchildren and more kids born since then, living in various houses and with only ONE person working, that ups the number of people claiming HB.

[Gary L]

If you looked at it in the way that every house occupied by an immigrant means one less house which makes a homeless person.

not mentioning the costs accumulating to the immigrant progressively.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by nomadking

When did rent levels determine whether somebody is eligible for Housing Benefit? It is income and savings that determine it.

It is cases like a couple coming over here from the Czech Republic with their TWENTY TWO children(some adult) and grandchildren and more kids born since then, living in various houses and with only ONE person working, that ups the number of people claiming HB.

Now come on, you know that never happens and even if it does it makes no difference...

Anyway, it doesn't matter where these people come from - whether via migration or birth rates, the argument that we must have continued and significant population growth to keep us going is as much nonsense on a national level as it is on a global level. If anything, the problem is too many people living too long.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Osem

the problem is too many people living too long.

We should offer incentives and a pill.

same with new borns.

and the inbetweens.

[Ramrod]

I don't understand. Why are the lefties moaning about the Tories giving housing benefit to more people?

[Gavin78]

It was only the other week that some crap was floating on our NHS computers screen saver that only 1% of the British population are none white

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

It was only the other week that some crap was floating on our NHS computers screen saver that only 1% of the British population are none white

Just to make sure that NHS emloyees are PC'd to up the hilt

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

It was only the other week that some crap was floating on our NHS computers screen saver that only 1% of the British population are none white

That's the trouble with that kind of thing.
when you know it's a definately lie. you can safely assume that all and any future ones are lies too.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I don't understand. Why are the lefties moaning about the Tories giving housing benefit to more people?