Operation Yewtree

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Top banana

There is also no guilt without a charge and a trial.

That's why the police invented the word 'suspicion'

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Can you believe Cliff Richard is going to prison?

Whilst we're all going on a summer holiday as well

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Derek

There needs to be some evidence of criminality before a warrant is granted, there isn't just a stack of them sitting about waiting for a celebrity to move to the area so they can punt his door in.

In my case they just made it up, and to avoid providing the reason/said evidence of criminality they hid behind a story that it was a reliable informer who would be put at risk if they were exposed.

The bottom line is, it was a PCSO who had uncovered a few small drug operations and got ambitious. He had a hunch, thought 2+2=5 and because he had some previous success his superiors had faith in him. They didn't have any evidence that anything criminal was going on so they fabricate excuses of a reliable informer to obtain the warrant.

The result is a PCSO who no longer covers the whole area although he is still the official listed PCSO for the area, police that on 2 occasions that visit every house in my street following burglaries but mine is the only one they walk past. The said PCSO now crosses the road if he sees my parents, and rushes off in the opposite direction or will not make eye contact if he has to pass me in the street.

The subsequent attitude of Gwent police over the incident means that I now think they are ****, and would walk past if a copper was getting a beating. It's no wonder the public loose faith when this sort of things happen. (Not that I had any faith in the effectiveness of Gwent police before this)

It is evident that the police will lie to obtain a warrant and lie to protect their own when they are in the wrong.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Escapee

It is evident that the police will lie to obtain a warrant and lie to protect their own when they are in the wrong.

Rubbish. Mistakes do happen but it's not like life on mars anymore. I might suggest that there is another side to the story that you haven't given us.

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Originally Posted by Escapee

The subsequent attitude of Gwent police over the incident means that I now think they are ****, and would walk past if a copper was getting a beating.

That says a lot about you that you would ignore someone getting beaten up to satisfy some perverse revenge for a slight.

[MalteseFalcon]

To be honest though Derek, if it was someone like Rolf Harris would you walk past? I know I would. I know there is a difference between a cop getting a kicking and a paedophile getting one, but principle is the same.

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

To be honest though Derek, if it was someone like Rolf Harris would you walk past? I know I would. I know there is a difference between a cop getting a kicking and a paedophile getting one, but principle is the same.

Depends if you believe in justice or vigilantism?

One small step along the road.....

[MalteseFalcon]

Then I believe in vigilantism then, as if it was someone like Rolf I would walk past without helping him.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Well I know from industry insiders that there were a lot of rumours circulating in the eighties. There's no smoke without fire as they say.

Unless you have a smoke machine...

Jim Davidson and Freddy Starr had the same rumours spread, but these were not found to have substance.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Derek

Rubbish. Mistakes do happen but it's not like life on mars anymore. I might suggest that there is another side to the story that you haven't given us.

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That says a lot about you that you would ignore someone getting beaten up to satisfy some perverse revenge for a slight.

Yes Derek, of course there must be another side to the story. How could I not be guilty of something if the police somehow thought I was. What was clear that when they realised there wasn't any drugs being cultivated in the premises there was signs that they started quickly searching for something else before I arrived. They searched items which I believe they suspected to contain firearms, again not had anything like that since I had an 0.77 air rifle in my teens.

Remember this was a well organised raid that was held in conjunction with officers also arriving at my parents house. After all, they seemed to think without a shred of evidence that I was 'Mr Big' around here in the drugs business. The bottom line, is that they were so far from the truth (Apart from having one drag on a joint about 12 years ago) I have no involvement with drugs or any other illegal activity.

The only reason the DI could come up with for carrying out the raid was that they had 'sufficient evidence that I was running a large scale drugs operation' and that 'I have a security camera outside my front door'. Then the legal department said the reason they wasn't going to pay compensation was because my back door was barricaded from inside. In reality they are referring to the fact it was well secured with bolts top and bottom to stop intruders, but a bit of a lame excuse to use because they had already started smashing it down before they discovered that. Everything from them was damage limitation as they seem to have a habit of doing this sort of thing around here and getting away with it.

To be fair to him, the DI involved took the time to meet with me and couldn't have been more apologetic about the 'mistake' and said that they realised they had no business being in my property within minutes of forcing entry. He also appeared to try his best to get their legal department to compensate for the damage, It appears that they just didn't want to admit any liability for their incompetence through fear that I would be making a big claim. The reality was I just wanted to be paid for the cost of a door and frame, I wasn't too annoyed with them at the time. I actually had a laugh, and all my close friends thought it unbelievably funny that I could be involved in drugs and annoyed that the police was so incompetent.

The PCSO who had been asking questions around here about me for weeks, immediately disappeared from this area of his beat. Over the period of a few years previously he used to pop into my parents for a cup of tea when on his round, very strange how he is still only seen in the Southern part of this area now. He crosses the road if he sees my parents, has turned around and gone in a different direction when spotting me and couldn't even make eye contact with me as I passed him in the street when he was with a copper. He was obviously hauled over the hot coals, but it was obviously done quietly to save the force embarrassment.

I guess though in the eyes of some I must be guilty because the police thought so, obviously I must be up to something, so what am I leaving out of the story and what do you think I'm hiding then Derek?

BTW: I have in the past assisted the police, on one occasion I got into a police car to go and assist an officer catch 2 guys who had seriously assaulted someone outside my house. Why the hell would I help hem now after the way I was treated?

Gwent police didn't have the guts to admit 'officially' that they got it wrong, instead they abused their authority to walk over an innocent member of the public. (No matter what you may think Derek)

[Julian]

Jeremy Hunt to apologise for misleading parliament over compensation money.

LINK

Taxpayers will dish out the dosh.

[Osem]

They sack Tony Blackburn on the basis that evidence he gave to an inquiry fell below the standards expected but have allowed Alan Yentob to retain a typically cosy and suitably well remunerated BBC number in spite of the fact that his behaviour also left a great deal to be desired in so many ways. Odd that eh?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35662448
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nutes-air.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/bbc-e...s-6616087.html

[MalteseFalcon]

That report was a waste of money and time. All the senior people get absolved of blame, the minnows get the blame. Sound familiar?

[Osem]

Yes it does rather.

[denphone]

To say that senior management never knew what was going on for all those years beggars belief in my opinion.

[Osem]

Like many a large organisation, the Beeb is infested with greedy self serving senior executives who look after themselves.