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Bobby Dazzler · 02-03-2015, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Because they'll need to keep your email on file for registration / account purposes. How else are you going to create an account with them?

Fair enough but what harm is there in using your real email address if they keep no logs and can link no usage back to you?

Also it appears that theres no anonymous way to pay if your in the UK and dont use / understand bitcoins. Ive called into several local paypoint / payzone stores and none of them sell pre paid credit cards, they only top them up and so you have to buy them online giving your name, address etc. The voucher cards they do sell such as Ukash and Paysafe are not accepted by PIA.
Use paypal and they will have your email anyway and if you pay using your own credit / debit card then you may as well give them your real email.

So other than bitcoin which i know nothing about and dont really care to, how could one pay anonymously from within the uk

Kushan · 02-03-2015, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dazzler

Fair enough but what harm is there in using your real email address if they keep no logs and can link no usage back to you?

Because sometimes the very fact that you have a VPN may be incriminating enough, in certain situations/countries.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dazzler

Also it appears that theres no anonymous way to pay if your in the UK and dont use / understand bitcoins. Ive called into several local paypoint / payzone stores and none of them sell pre paid credit cards, they only top them up and so you have to buy them online giving your name, address etc. The voucher cards they do sell such as Ukash and Paysafe are not accepted by PIA.
Use paypal and they will have your email anyway and if you pay using your own credit / debit card then you may as well give them your real email.

So other than bitcoin which i know nothing about and dont really care to, how could one pay anonymously from within the uk

As the technology develops, this will become easier. If your privacy is that paramount, you'll invest the time in to understanding how to use it.

dave.m · 02-03-2015, 22:14

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Originally Posted by Kushan

As the technology develops, this will become easier. If your privacy is that paramount, you'll invest the time in to understanding how to use it.

Privacy - what's that again?

Yes I've just watched CitizenFour.

Bobby Dazzler · 03-03-2015, 18:58

I think ive finally decided to go with PIA and wondered if anyone can answer me a couple of questions.

If i install the PIA client on my laptop and set up the Kill Switch will i still be able to go onto the internet without going through the VPN as i dont wish to do everything through the VPN?

If the VPN goes down will the kill switch stop any torrents that were running at the time?

I notice PIA also include a Socks Proxy, can this be used in a torrent client at the same time as the VPN as a back up incase the VPN disconnects. Are there any real advantages / drawbacks to doing this?

Any help is much appreciated!

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Originally Posted by dave.m

Privacy - what's that again?

Yes I've just watched CitizenFour.

Just googled it, will be watching it when ive got time, thanks!

qasdfdsaq · 05-03-2015, 00:47

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dazzler

I notice PIA also include a Socks Proxy. Are there any real advantages / drawbacks to doing this?

Reduced performance, inability to accept incoming connections, and this is also the exact sort of setup that makes you vulnerable to the type of 'leaks' described above.

Bobby Dazzler · 05-03-2015, 17:34

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Reduced performance, inability to accept incoming connections, and this is also the exact sort of setup that makes you vulnerable to the type of 'leaks' described above.

Are you talking about using a socks proxy behind VPN or just a socks proxy on its own?

Are you saying using the two together makes you more vulnerable

Heres another question ive been pondering about VPN with shared ips.
If some ******* is on the same shared ip as you and he does something naughty, could this potentialy put you in the frame along with alot of other people of course?

General Maximus · 05-03-2015, 18:38

in the context of your home network you would expect your family to be relatively well behaved. If you are living with friends then that is a different story and the burden of proof with rest with the authorities as to who did what. You have got to remember though that this only applies if it is a shared machine. The vpn connection is from a specific machine in your premises to another machine elsewhere, it isn't for your VM connection and every device automatically connects to it. So unless you have a shared machine you are thinking of then you don't have to worry about being held responsible for other people's behaviour. The device you are using for the vpn connection with have a wan ip address not associated with VM at all and it will be provided by the hosting provider. All other devices in your house will have a local address provided by your shub/router and will share the VM wan ip address.

qasdfdsaq · 05-03-2015, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dazzler

Are you talking about using a socks proxy behind VPN or just a socks proxy on its own?

Either really.

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Heres another question ive been pondering about VPN with shared ips.
If some ******* is on the same shared ip as you and he does something naughty, could this potentialy put you in the frame along with alot of other people of course?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

in the context of your home network you would expect your family to be relatively well behaved. If you are living with friends then that is a different story and the burden of proof with rest with the authorities as to who did what. You have got to remember though that this only applies if it is a shared machine. The vpn connection is from a specific machine in your premises to another machine elsewhere, it isn't for your VM connection and every device automatically connects to it. So unless you have a shared machine you are thinking of then you don't have to worry about being held responsible for other people's behaviour. The device you are using for the vpn connection with have a wan ip address not associated with VM at all and it will be provided by the hosting provider. All other devices in your house will have a local address provided by your shub/router and will share the VM wan ip address.

That may be the case from a legal point of view but most websites aren't run by law enforcement. If your VPN endpoint IP is abused by someone else it's quite possible, if not even common, for said IP to be banned from certain websites or servers. Some even mass-ban entire subnets.

Khenryashley · 11-04-2015, 19:09

Anyone having problems with VPN provider PIA.
I can't get any speeds over 2 Mbps on any of the US servers this afternoon.
I'm on 100 Mbps.
Thanks

General Maximus · 11-04-2015, 20:25

I see what you mean. I have only ever used the UK servers and I have just done some speed tests on different servers around the country and I can't get more than 4mbits (and I am on 152). I'll do some more tests tomorrow and Monday and see if it improves. I never get full speed normally but it has always been between 50 and 60mbits.

Jumping · 11-04-2015, 20:56

I'm not on a virgin connection anymore as moved house but getting near my SKY FTTC max speed im on 40/10 at the moment.

So doesn't look like there is anything wrong at least not on the .nl server I was using.

jcm193 · 11-04-2015, 22:32

I must of tried 10 different vpn providers including PIA and all but 2 have horrendous speeds on servers outside of the UK i think this is a virgin media issue not that they will admit it

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Originally Posted by Khenryashley

Anyone having problems with VPN provider PIA.
I can't get any speeds over 2 Mbps on any of the US servers this afternoon.
I'm on 100 Mbps.
Thanks

yorkshireborn · 14-04-2015, 10:04

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Originally Posted by jcm193

I must of tried 10 different vpn providers including PIA and all but 2 have horrendous speeds on servers outside of the UK i think this is a virgin media issue not that they will admit it

I use ipvanish I go thru the Dutch servers the US ones are really slow.

gunner45 · 16-04-2015, 23:29

I'm using AirVPN for purely privacy reasons. It's not that I've much to hide, but I don't want anyone else snooping around.

From London, I usually connect to one of their Manchester servers. I have 100mbps down, 6mbps up. The Superhub is in modem mode connected to a D-Link DIR-655 (five years old but rock solid). Here is a typical speed:

Connection to a Chicago server gives this:

RainmakerRaw · 23-04-2015, 00:00

Don't worry too much about speedtest.net as the quality of the servers is highly variable ime. I can get a result around 3Mbps but then fire up an Ubuntu torrent and hit 18MB/sec without issue. AirVPN are probably the best VPN provider out there, I honestly don't know why PIA are so popular; closed-source client, no support for most GNU/Linux distros, no BSD support, no router support, no pfSense support and if they can't answer your question from a script they send you to the forums to ask other customers for help instead lol.

AirVPN will debug any issues (on ANY os) in real time with users, and their client is not only FOSS but runs on Windows, OS X, and all Linux distros. It comes as rpm, deb and portable so you can run it anywhere and development is rapid. It also gives the options of running openvpn over SSH, SSL or TOR. PIA meanwhile? Nope.

You will never speak to a script monkey at Air, you speak to someone who runs the VPN and knows how to write shell scripts on the fly to help resolve your issues. They brought out THREE new versions of their client in a single afternoon last week, in response to customer feedback on the forum. PIA meanwhile have been promising to 'work night and day' on a proper platform agnostic binary for over a year now and it's gotten to the point where they literally ignore any mention of it lol

Air shows how a VPN service should be run imho. Add in the geo-location DNS routing where you can connect to NL but watch US Hulu/Netflix or BBC iPlayer without jumping nodes, and it's a great package.

I have subscriptions to both PIA and AirVPN btw, as well as a couple of others I'm keeping to myself (sorry :p). So I'm not trying to swipe at the 'competition' in saying the above, it's just a fact.

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Originally Posted by jcm193

I must of tried 10 different vpn providers including PIA and all but 2 have horrendous speeds on servers outside of the UK i think this is a virgin media issue not that they will admit it

If you haven't already, try with your SH in modem mode. There SH2 especially is either purposefully crippled or else buggy for OpenVPN connections, and you'll struggle to get more than 3MB/sec through it. Switch to modem only mode (I bridge through a custom built pfSense box) and boom - full speed. Thought it might be worth mentioning for you just in case it's part of your problem.

At 100+Mbps speeds though you are right, not many true non-logging VPN providers can or will keep up. AirVPN, PIA, VPN.ac and one or two others seem to be OK but after that it's a lottery.