Superhub : 200Mbit coming soon? (According to a survey)

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ccarmock

Will all areas go to 64QAM? I ask as being in an area fed from New Malden. Upstream here has historically been poor due to the state of the network. Hopefully the work to rectify that has left in in good shape for this.

VM will (to my mind obviously) programme things so that every area is up to the same standard. Indeed if it's to have 100/200/300 tiers, then the two higher tiers will need the 64QAM and additional channels. Whether > 2 channels will be provisioned to the 100 meg tier, I can't say.

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Welcome back telfordcable.

I thought he was permanently banned at the same time that nuttehbutteh dude was.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

VM will (to my mind obviously) programme things so that every area is up to the same standard. Indeed if it's to have 100/200/300 tiers, then the two higher tiers will need the 64QAM and additional channels. Whether > 2 channels will be provisioned to the 100 meg tier, I can't say.

Every tier will be provisioned the same so all DOCSIS 3 devices regardless of their service tier will receive as many upstream channels as are available in the group.

Modems that only have 8x4 cable front ends in areas with >8 channels will lock to the 8 channels they are offered, while 24x8 or 32x8 modems will take the whole group. This is done on a per-CPE basis to load balance channels - note that in the case of those in areas with 12 downstreams already some top out at 291MHz and go right down to 235MHz while others are on the same channels they were when the area was running on 8, 267MHz - 323MHz, and yet others run on 251MHz - 307MHz.

Load balanced across in 3 groups of channels 1-8, 3-10 and 5-12. Channels have to run consecutively so this is the best they can do.

[Ignitionnet]

Just to clarify BT's FTTC will not be 400Mb/40Mb by 2017. The current FTTC product might be in the 100Mb/30Mb ballpark but cannot go to 400Mb.

This will be a new product using the new standard G.fast. BT have not announced any details of the download or upload speeds they plan to offer on the newer standard they'll be rolling out, beyond that they plan on offering 500Mb to 'most' homes by 2025 and will start in 2016-17, with the hope of offering 'a few hundred' megabits per second to 'millions' of homes and businesses by 2020.

Things will be clearer when they have done the trials. As this is brand new technology BT do not know what it's capable of when rolled out to any kind of scale - no-one does yet as it hasn't been rolled out to any kind of scale yet, so it won't surprise anyone to know that 400Mb/40Mb was a number picked out of the hindmost and, regardless, the upload speed will be way higher than 10% of download in any event.

http://home.bt.com/news/bt-life/bt-c...11363958493131

VM will be at gigabit speeds, if necessary to compete, by 2020.

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Just to clarify BT's FTTC will not be 400Mb/40Mb by 2017

you obviously don't know what you are talking about because our No 1 most reliable source of information on this forum says otherwise

[qasdfdsaq]

I wont believe it until I hear truthspeaker speak it.

[telfordcable]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

VM will be at gigabit speeds, if necessary to compete, by 2020.

No chance of that!

BT can get up to 500Mbps to 1000Mbps download /250Mbps to 500Mbps upload with G.fast and super vectoring

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Welcome back telfordcable.

Many thanks. The evil telford cable are back!

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

No chance of that!

BT can get up to 500Mbps to 1000Mbps download /250Mbps to 500Mbps upload with G.fast and super vectoring

Interesting. The fastest they've managed with the trials so far is 786Mb download, 231Mb upload, at 19m, with no vectoring needed as that was the only G.fast signal on the cable bundle.

Evidently you're privvy to some information that the people doing the trials themselves aren't.

As well as that you also seem to know more about Virgin Media's plans for future capacity upgrades than Virgin Media do.

All in all I'm thinking we need to ask you what the lottery numbers are as you appear to have a crystal ball.

[telfordcable]

I doubt Virgin Media will NOT roll out nationwide Fibre To The House! Like London already have it with VM.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

I doubt Virgin Media will NOT roll out nationwide Fibre To The House! Like London already have it with VM.

There's nowhere in London with FTTP from Virgin Media. The trials are at Papworth and Edinburgh.

There are no plans to upgrade existing areas to FTTP in the near term. The coaxial network can, with upgrades, deliver very high speeds.

Next please.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

I thought he was permanently banned at the same time that nuttehbutteh dude was.

Were they not the same person ?

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

super vectoring

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Interesting. The fastest they've managed with the trials so far is 786Mb download, 231Mb upload, at 19m, with no vectoring needed as that was the only G.fast signal on the cable bundle.

Yeah but like he said, that's without super vectoring.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Edinburgh.

What? Where?

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Originally Posted by Kushan

It's super faster than normal vectoring.

[telfordcable]

BT are keeping it a secret! Super Vectoring will be a winner! Virgin Media will going lose the best fastest uk broadband in UK soon.

Originally Posted by telfordcable

BT are keeping it a secret! Super Vectoring will be a winner! Virgin Media will going lose the best fastest uk broadband in UK soon.

Unless you can back up your assertions with appropriate links/quotes, kindly stop posting crap.