European Terror Attacks - Page 12

Sirius · 09-01-2015, 15:43

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Originally Posted by 007stuart

BBC reporting French were "shooting to kill"

Quite right!!

Saves a pointless trial

7.62mm or 9mm does not cost a lot in the grande scheme of things. If they had taken them alive the cost to do that would be the same as popping them. Keeping them in jail for years to come at tax payers expense would have cost them even more.

Osem · 09-01-2015, 15:43

I tend to agree. Banged up in some jail somewhere for years they'll not only be acting as reminders to those like them but quite possibly able to spread their hatred further, directly or indirectly, at some point. You can bet there'd have been appeals and more appeals along the way, all generating further publicity for their cause. This way they'll be long forgotten, just another few sad people whose lives were ended because they chose to be grievously offended by satire. Pathetic really.

Russ · 09-01-2015, 15:44

I've got a bad feeling things are about to take a dark turn after all these past 2 days. Decent society will stand in unison to show we're not scared and won't back down, the nutters will see this as a challenge to ramp up their evil acts.....this won't end well for anyone.

09-01-2015, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Sirius

What so they can be freed from jail in the future. Remember they had been in jail once before for terrorist related reasons and were released. They then go and kill people. Personally i am happy there is NO WAY they can do anything again to anyone.

Far better for them to rot in a cell for life than be rewarded

Russ · 09-01-2015, 15:48

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Originally Posted by martyh

Far better for them to rot in a cell for life than be rewarded

And 'cell' should be in the loosest sense - Guantanamo Bay for life would take the sting out of any enthusiasm they'd have for 'death by cop'.

007stuart · 09-01-2015, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh

That's the way all professionals are trained - it's only in the movies where they 'wing' people....

Just like the SAS action in Iranian Embassy in London. Pity the SAS wasn't about when Lee Rigby was murdered.

Sirius · 09-01-2015, 15:51

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Originally Posted by 007stuart

BBC reporting French were "shooting to kill"

Quite right!!

Saves a pointless trial

With the power of modern weapons if your hit by a high velocity round you tend to die from it.

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Originally Posted by Russ

And 'cell' should be in the loosest sense - Guantanamo Bay for life would take the sting out of any enthusiasm they'd have for 'death by cop'.

But lets face it, this was happening in Europe so there was no chance they would go to gitmo, instead they would have got the best lawyers at tax payers expense to fight there case for years and years through the European courts. When i said murderers should be in solitary with no contact ever with other inmates i was told that is classed as inhuman and would not be allowed.

Gary L · 09-01-2015, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Russ

I've got a bad feeling things are about to take a dark turn after all these past 2 days. Decent society will stand in unison to show we're not scared and won't back down, the nutters will see this as a challenge to ramp up their evil acts.....this won't end well for anyone.

Yep.
the world. well some of it. is making a mockery of these people and their religion. the nutters will be even more offended.

looks like 2015 is where it all kicks off.

Russ · 09-01-2015, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Sirius

But lets face it, this was happening in Europe so there was no chance they would go to gitmo, instead they would have got the best lawyers at tax payers expense to fight there case for years and years through the European courts. When i said murderers should be in solitary with no contact ever with other inmates i was told that is classed as inhuman and would not be allowed.

These are more than murders - terrorists like these are infinitely worse. If not Guantanamo Bay then somewhere equivalent. I can't see the French caring about defying EU rules for their own national interests.

Sirius · 09-01-2015, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Yep.
the world. well some of it. is making a mockery of these people and their religion. the nutters will be even more offended.

looks like 2015 is where it all kicks off.

There are lots of religious nutters out there on all sides.

Osem · 09-01-2015, 16:11

If these people are going to be motivated to attack us because their mates have been sent to their great maker, they're just as likely to do the same if we'd banged them up in a dungeon, thrown away the keys and deprived them of martyrdom.

Not that it would happen like that in the UK - too many human rights lawyers would be queuing up to mount taxpayer funded appeal after appeal just as they did with the Abu pair.

Nope, on balance it's better they're dead, people like them are dying every day they'll soon be forgotten even if the hate which drives people like them won't be.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

There are lots of religious nutters out there on all sides.

To be fair, there's more than a few non-religious nutters around too...

Gary L · 09-01-2015, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Sirius

There are lots of religious nutters out there on all sides.

We know.
maybe one day there will be a cure.

**Damien** · 09-01-2015, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Sirius

But lets face it, this was happening in Europe so there was no chance they would go to gitmo, instead they would have got the best lawyers at tax payers expense to fight there case for years and years through the European courts. When i said murderers should be in solitary with no contact ever with other inmates i was told that is classed as inhuman and would not be allowed.

The Woolwich terrorists had their appeals thrown out quite quickly: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30306145

Ignitionnet · 09-01-2015, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Russ

Decent society will stand in unison to show we're not scared and won't back down

Society might but the politicians at least in the UK have no intention of doing so. The appeasement rhetoric started immediately and it's noteworthy that while in other nations the offending material was published widely here it was not... because the newspapers are scared and the politicians only care about votes.

I have a wonderful Labour MP but after the reaction of one Yvette Cooper I am struggling to bring myself to vote for him even based on local issues as I was intending to.

Sirius · 09-01-2015, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Damien

The Woolwich terrorists had their appeals thrown out quite quickly: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30306145

And how much has that cost so far in lawyers ?, Bet you its in the millions already.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Society might but the politicians at least in the UK have no intention of doing so. The appeasement rhetoric started immediately and it's noteworthy that while in other nations the offending material was published widely here it was not... because the newspapers are scared and the politicians only care about votes.

I have a wonderful Labour MP but after the reaction of one Yvette Cooper I am struggling to bring myself to vote for him even based on local issues as I was intending to.

The appeasement will grow over the next day or two. As you say there is an election soon and all the parties will not want to upset potential voters before they vote.