Ukip councillor: immigration ‘overload’ has made UK racist.

[Taf]

A Czech Roma family that lived near me has just completed their 9th housemove in the UK in 7 years, and are already thinking about moving again.

The father told me they have to keep moving due to the attitudes of their neighbours towards the Roma. He also said that the feelings towards Roma were getting worse all over the UK, especially in schools and workplaces.

"Too many Roma are coming here" explained his wife, "And not only good ones, they are giving us a bad name".

They arrived here with a single child. Number 7 is due in June next year. The 2 boys in the middle are absolute terrors, and their parents know it!

[Ramrod]

"Number 7" wtf?!
What kind of job does he have that he can afford to have 7 kids?

[Taf]

He had a short period working as a labourer in a brick factory, the rest of the time he's been "a cleaner". Their biggest income (I know, because I used to help him with their bills) were child-related benefits, and that was 3 kids ago!

And yes, they have a huge TV, satellite TV (not for UK programmes), gas-guzzling car, lots of gold jewelry, plenty of branded sportswear and a large drinks cabinet.

And a lot of outstanding bills, both here and back home, using various identities that he and his wife have. He has already spent time in prison after being arrested on the border into the Czech Republic for credit fraud. He had to hitchhike back to Dover after that incarceration.

And they are one of the nice families! All their other friends are crooks... and he's the one who describes them as such!

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Taf

He had a short period working as a labourer in a brick factory, the rest of the time he's been "a cleaner". Their biggest income (I know, because I used to help him with their bills) were child-related benefits, and that was 3 kids ago!

And yes, they have a huge TV, satellite TV (not for UK programmes), gas-guzzling car, lots of gold jewelry, plenty of branded sportswear and a large drinks cabinet.

And a lot of outstanding bills, both here and back home, using various identities that he and his wife have. He has already spent time in prison after being arrested on the border into the Czech Republic for credit fraud. He had to hitchhike back to Dover after that incarceration.

And they are one of the nice families! All their other friends are crooks... and he's the one who describes them as such!

They're very fortunate to have had such a compassionate and supportive friend as yourself to help with their bills and make them feel welcome in the UK.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Taf

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And they are one of the nice families! All their other friends are crooks... and he's the one who describes them as such!

......and the Roma wonder why no-one likes them!

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

......and the Roma wonder why no-one likes them!

Bit of a generalization there Rammy. Not everyone is of that mindset, Taf is proof.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

They're very fortunate to have had such a compassionate and supportive friend as yourself to help with their bills and make them feel welcome in the UK.

We were great friends in no time, and we still are although I see them rarely. I helped them with all sorts of documentation and interviews (I helped him get the brick making job).

It was only when his Roma "friends and family" started turning up demanding his hospitality (alcohol and food) that things started to get a bit weary. Then it was a constant stream of Roma DEMANDING I find the "cheap flights" to and from the Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. That got old quick.

The last straw for the landlord was when his in-laws drank all his booze during one of the many all-nighters they pulled at his place, then took offence at something and threw him through a window..... and started to beat him with a glass-studded piece of window frame.

After they moved away, It was an almost weekly thing to get a car full of rough Roma turn up at our place DEMANDING cheap flights or help with documentation. I think my name was taken off their list after a few months.

Recently a group of the most scary Roma I have ever seen were very menacing DEMANDING his address when I was at a market. Security stepped-in luckily.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

We were great friends in no time, and we still are although I see them rarely. I helped them with all sorts of documentation and interviews (I helped him get the brick making job).

It was only when his Roma "friends and family" started turning up demanding his hospitality (alcohol and food) that things started to get a bit weary. Then it was a constant stream of Roma DEMANDING I find the "cheap flights" to and from the Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. That got old quick.

The last straw for the landlord was when his in-laws drank all his booze during one of the many all-nighters they pulled at his place, then took offence at something and threw him through a window..... and started to beat him with a glass-studded piece of window frame.

After they moved away, It was an almost weekly thing to get a car full of rough Roma turn up at our place DEMANDING cheap flights or help with documentation. I think my name was taken off their list after a few months.

Recently a group of the most scary Roma I have ever seen were very menacing DEMANDING his address when I was at a market. Security stepped-in luckily.

Sounds like you've done a lot more for them than a lot of people would have.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Taf

We were great friends in no time, and we still are although I see them rarely. I helped them with all sorts of documentation and interviews (I helped him get the brick making job).

It was only when his Roma "friends and family" started turning up demanding his hospitality (alcohol and food) that things started to get a bit weary. Then it was a constant stream of Roma DEMANDING I find the "cheap flights" to and from the Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. That got old quick.

The last straw for the landlord was when his in-laws drank all his booze during one of the many all-nighters they pulled at his place, then took offence at something and threw him through a window..... and started to beat him with a glass-studded piece of window frame.

After they moved away, It was an almost weekly thing to get a car full of rough Roma turn up at our place DEMANDING cheap flights or help with documentation. I think my name was taken off their list after a few months.

Recently a group of the most scary Roma I have ever seen were very menacing DEMANDING his address when I was at a market. Security stepped-in luckily.

Fair play to you Taf.

[Taf]

I have always tried to find the good in people and not tar them all with the same brush. Sometimes it pays off and good friendships or relationships have developed, but I have been burned quite a few times, usually by people who think they should behave like their stereotypes. Those are the types that seem to be in the majority of recent immigrants in our area, shunned and often detested by their peers.

And that is why the recent immigration "overload" appears to be having a "racist" backlash. Here in Cardiff it's obviously aimed at Kurds (of many nationalities) and Roma (of many nationalities), not at all the Polish, Pakistanis, Chinese, Somalian or whatever.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Bit of a generalization there Rammy. Not everyone is of that mindset, Taf is proof.

If you are implying that I don't like Roma. I didn't say that. What I said was that Roma complain that no-one likes them.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Sounds like you've done a lot more for them than a lot of people would have.

It's probably tricky to tell a car full of Roma that they aren't welcome

[Osem]

It's tricky telling my outlaws and they're aren't Roma... lol

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

If you are implying that I don't like Roma. I didn't say that. What I said was that Roma complain that no-one likes them.

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It's probably tricky to tell a car full of Roma that they aren't welcome

I wasn't implying anything in relation to your liking or not liking Roma.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Taf

I have always tried to find the good in people and not tar them all with the same brush. Sometimes it pays off and good friendships or relationships have developed, but I have been burned quite a few times, usually by people who think they should behave like their stereotypes. Those are the types that seem to be in the majority of recent immigrants in our area, shunned and often detested by their peers.

And that is why the recent immigration "overload" appears to be having a "racist" backlash. Here in Cardiff it's obviously aimed at Kurds (of many nationalities) and Roma (of many nationalities), not at all the Polish, Pakistanis, Chinese, Somalian or whatever.

Taf, the Roma are very quiet around here lately but that's typical for the cold weather. When spring comes the 'Splott Circus' will return. My partner is an immigrant but I think she hit the nail on the head, she said she thinks the main reason they are disliked is because their culture is so different to ours. The drinking in the street, gathering in large groups and rowdiness doesn't fit in with our culture, but would perhaps be OK in other European countries. She says that they wouldn't last long in South Africa acting like they do around here, they would receiving a Goodyear necklaces.

I prefer Inter myself.