Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Mr Angry]

Meanwhile.

"Scotland is to get a new newspaper, the National, which will be the first Scottish daily to support independence."

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Meanwhile.

"Newsquest is going to repackage its existing Glasgow daily output under a pro-independence masthead, to see if any of the Nats who've been boycotting the Herald since it came out for No are dull-witted enough to be taken in."

Fixed that for you.

[Mr Angry]

Thanks.

[Derek]

Looks like the SNP are going back to their roots by holding public rallies that glorify the leader and burning books they don't agree with.

A video showing SNP councillors burning a copy of the Smith Commission report on more powers for Scotland has been branded "offensive" and "disgusting".

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...itics-30302865

[heero_yuy]

Seems that the SNPs spending policies after independence would have been in tatters with the slump in oil prices:

Alistair Carmichael, UK secretary of state for Scotland, said Treasury analysis showed the fall in the oil price to $82 a barrel, if maintained, would mean revenues £8.7bn lower than forecast by the Scottish government for the three years from 2016 to 2018.

The lowest oil price included in Scottish government oil revenue forecasts issued in May was $99 a barrel in 2016-17, with most of the SNP administration’s scenarios based on a price of $110.

“Had Scotland been independent today, the Scottish government would have had billions less to spend on essential public services,” Mr Carmichael said in a statement.

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[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Seems that the SNPs spending policies after independence would have been in tatters with the slump in oil prices:



Linky

That'll be down to the evil English you know...

[Derek]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Seems that the SNPs spending policies after independence would have been in tatters with the slump in oil prices

Sshhhh! The oil was only ever a bonus / would have recovered by the independence date / people would have paid more coz its Scottish oil / MI5 are manipulating the markets.

There, that's all the yes camps arguments. Choose whichever one you want.

[Osem]

Just out of interest I wonder how well 'Scottish petrol' would sell if it were marketed separately and priced higher. Notwithstanding the vast amount of tax already levied on petrol, would people freely pay more in order to further support their state?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Seems that the SNPs spending policies after independence would have been in tatters with the slump in oil prices:



Linky

“Had Scotland been independent today, the Scottish government would have had billions less to spend on essential public services,”

Indeed, and it would have had billions less at a time when it would have needed to spend extra to set up infrastructure to replace that lost when the various uk government ministries pulled out..

Originally Posted by Stuart

Indeed, and it would have had billions less at a time when it would have needed to spend extra to set up infrastructure to replace that lost when the various uk government ministries pulled out..

Obviously it's all a big conspiracy. Dave has called in a favour with the House of Saud, and they've flooded the market with cheap crude just to put one over the Nats.

Originally Posted by Chris

Obviously it's all a big conspiracy. Dave has called in a favour with the House of Saud, and they've flooded the market with cheap crude just to put one over the Nats.

This is actually what the Russians believe. Their economy is tanking due to the combination of Western (do you capitalise 'Western'?) sanctions and low oil prices and they believe the latter is a political decision from OPEC who aren't, yet, restricting the supply.

Originally Posted by Damien

This is actually what the Russians believe. Their economy is tanking due to the combination of Western (do you capitalise 'Western'?) sanctions and low oil prices and they believe the latter is a political decision from OPEC who aren't, yet, restricting the supply.

It would be worth your while reading this handy piece of analysis:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30289546

What they actually seem interested in, is putting a big dent in the budgets in both Tehran and Moscow, but it's Saudi Arabia specifically, rather than the whole of Opec, that's behind it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30525539

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC.
Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money.
Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Things are looking grim..

[Osem]

Yes well this is the flip side of the coin - we all like to moan about fuel/energy prices but tend to forget all those companies and individuals whose livelihoods depend on them.

Wonder how well the SNP's vote would have stood up had this all happened a few months ago. Still I'm sure they have a credible 'plan B' to replace all that lost oil revenue...

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Things are looking grim..

You mean the estimate of $113 a barrel that the guessers were proclaiming was a low figure isn't happening?

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Originally Posted by Osem

Wonder how well the SNP's vote would have stood up had this all happened a few months ago.

The oil money was just a bonus... Even if it was spent 4 times over at their ridiculous estimated price.