Will Scotland Leave the UK? - Page 147

**Damien** · 13-09-2014, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Russ

Bullying? Or the usual childish propaganda tactics expected around election time?

Some of these banks are foreign ones. Credit Sussie, Deutsche Bank. Why would they be engaged with childish propaganda as well?

Russ · 13-09-2014, 09:51

I wouldn't have thought so but I still don't consider it 'bullying'.

Pierre · 13-09-2014, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Derek

Ooops. Looks like the Nats caring/sharing mask is slipping and they are showing their true colours

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-vote-Yes.html

There you go. Speak out about legitimate concerns and someone close to the heart of the Yes campaign will decide to exact some revenge.

He was on Sky this morning. Basically saying anyone that disagreed with the SNP were meddling in the democratic process.

alanbjames · 13-09-2014, 10:23

what worries me is where Britain would put our nukes if its a yes vote considering they are all currently at a site in Scotland!

**Chris** · 13-09-2014, 10:26

Trident would see out its life on the Clyde, of that I am sure. There are a lot of CND types up here voting Yes purely to get rid of it, but they've been had. Even the SNP White Paper on independence contains some very obvious weasel words about their aspirations to move it.

After that, Devonport is probably the most likely alternative site for the system that replaces Trident.

But it's not going to happen.

LondonRoad · 13-09-2014, 10:34

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Originally Posted by Damien

Some of these banks are foreign ones. Credit Sussie, Deutsche Bank. Why would they be engaged with childish propaganda as well?

It's how it's reported, the interpretation and the significance it's given.

Overseas banks have also drawn up contingency plans to move some operations out of the UK because of the possiblilty of a EU referendum.

I would imagine that drawing up a contingency plan is a fairly normal procedure for any Finance institution if there a potential political change that may impact on their business. Such a contingency plan would have to look at worse case scenarios; Eventual outcomes are seldom worse case.

The interpretation by the media, including the BBC, is usually even darker than the worse case scenario

Mr Angry · 13-09-2014, 10:55

"That's not a tattoo, it's a birthmark".

**Damien** · 13-09-2014, 14:46

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad

I would imagine that drawing up a contingency plan is a fairly normal procedure for any Finance institution if there a potential political change that may impact on their business. Such a contingency plan would have to look at worse case scenarios; Eventual outcomes are seldom worse case.

That's not what they're saying though. They're issuing guidance to their customers that Scotland is a risky place to keep your money at the moment as they think Scotland will be weaker economically, especially in the short term, if they leave.

The Yes campaign keep saying this kind of thing is scaremongering but it isn't. It's a disruptive thing to spilt a country apart, to leave a market, and not to know what currency will be used.

Mr Angry · 13-09-2014, 16:48

Interesting interview with Jim Sillars on the BBC.

LondonRoad · 13-09-2014, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Damien

The Yes campaign keep saying this kind of thing is scaremongering but it isn't. It's a disruptive thing to spilt a country apart, to leave a market, and not to know what currency will be used.

I'm not part of the Yes campaign and I can see clearly that it is scaremongering. There is unbalanced reporting. Those anti-independent businesses are making the headlines, those businesses who say it will have no effect or may be beneficial are either not reported or mentioned in the last paragraph.

The Westminster PR machine, coordinated in No 10, has managed to band together some businesses to issues pro-Union/anti-independence sentiments. This does not make that a consensus of all businesses.

**Hugh** · 13-09-2014, 17:37

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad

I'm sure that the editorial isn't at all influenced by Rusbridger standing to inherit the Benshie estate through his wife, daughter of Baron Mackie of Benshie.

No declaration if interest in the article so I'm sure it's all above board... Aye rihgt

No, he's not....

Baron Mackie was elevated to the Lords as a political Lord, as he was the youngest of the three sons (Maitland, John, & George) of Maitland Mackie, each of whom has had several offspring.

So in reality, Alan Rusbridger is married to someone who has a share in a family business and lands, none of which will change whether or not Scotland votes for independence, unless the new Scottish parliament is intending to disenfranchise / disinherit anyone married to someone not Scots-born....

As has been said earlier, not sure what the relevance is....

Derek · 13-09-2014, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Hugh

unless the new Scottish parliament is intending to disenfranchise / disinherit anyone married to someone not Scots-born....

Sshhhh! Don't give them ideas!

Osem · 13-09-2014, 17:50

Such is the inbuilt distrust of anything emanating from Westminster/London/England north of the border, I don't think the BT campaign could do anything without being criticised by someone or other.

IMHO it's time for the Scots to put up or shut up. Everyone I talk to just wants this interminable name calling to be over and done with so make your mind up guys. Go your own way or stay in but let that be an end to it because the vast majority of people watching from the sidelines seem to be thoroughly peed off with all this. In fact given all the veiled and not so veiled 'threats' being issued by the Yes people to all and sundry, you could just find you've lost yourselves a great many friends irrespective of the result and that really would be sad. This whole thing has opened a can of worms and created a great deal of resentment which won't be easily forgotten no matter what else happens. For those who set this train in motion I hope it was worth it.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

No, he's not....

Baron Mackie was elevated to the Lords as a political Lord, as he was the youngest of the three sons (Maitland, John, & George) of Maitland Mackie, each of whom has had several offspring.

So in reality, Alan Rusbridger is married to someone who has a share in a family business and lands, none of which will change whether or not Scotland votes for independence, unless the new Scottish parliament is intending to disenfranchise / disinherit anyone married to someone not Scots-born....

As has been said earlier, not sure what the relevance is....

Typical biased nonsense from the BT side as usual...

**Hugh** · 13-09-2014, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Interesting interview with Jim Sillars on the BBC.

Not sure if he used the phrase 'working class' often enough.....

**Chris** · 13-09-2014, 19:38

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