The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years

Originally Posted by banjo

That is your assumption ??

It's not an assumption ,it's a fact .There will be no tax discs so therefore there will be no illegal ,forged or counterfeit discs ,i'm not sure how big that black market is but it will disappear overnight

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

I've never understood where that fallacy came from. If you have a current certificate of insurance, you are insured - end of.

You can't get tax without insurance so it's a bit of an indicator you might not.have any, nothing more

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by martyh

It's not an assumption ,it's a fact .There will be no tax discs so therefore there will be no illegal ,forged or counterfeit discs ,i'm not sure how big that black market is but it will disappear overnight

ANPR checks go against the DVLA databases. disc or not on the windscreen, an ANPR check will show whether the car is insured, taxed and last MOT date I thought. forging a paper disc hardly holds much point these days.

[Gary L]

It's more for a passing nosey policeman, nosey neighbours, nosey traffic warden, and all people nosey.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by martyh

which is exactly why the disc is now obsolete and what we have been trying to explain to Banjo for the last few posts

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It has been in the past so why would it change just because a piece of paper is being scrapped .

martyh, it isn't 100% correct and that is a problem, as the MID do not claim that their database is 100% accurate. I did some research on this a few years ago, and whilst the MID was something like 97% or so accurate that still means that at any point in time thousands of cars on the road may not be on the database.

Also if the police may attempt to check with the insurance company out of hours, if they are unable to make contact it is likely that the vehicle will be impounded. The one company I was insured with only had a premium rate number during office hours and email for all other contact, I'm sure Mr Plod would be unlikely to accept my word for it that I'm legal.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

ANPR checks go against the DVLA databases. disc or not on the windscreen, an ANPR check will show whether the car is insured, taxed and last MOT date I thought. forging a paper disc hardly holds much point these days.

most police cars don't have anpr iirc

Originally Posted by Escapee

martyh, it isn't 100% correct and that is a problem, as the MID do not claim that their database is 100% accurate. I did some research on this a few years ago, and whilst the MID was something like 97% or so accurate that still means that at any point in time thousands of cars on the road may not be on the database.

Also if the police may attempt to check with the insurance company out of hours, if they are unable to make contact it is likely that the vehicle will be impounded. The one company I was insured with only had a premium rate number during office hours and email for all other contact, I'm sure Mr Plod would be unlikely to accept my word for it that I'm legal.

What has vehicle tax got to do with MID(motor insurance database) details of tax on vehicles is held on the DVLA database ,not MID ,you are confusing the 2 data bases

Two off topic posts removed.Leave off baiting and flaming and just discuss the topic.

[Sirius]

Considering the amount of ANPR cameras sprouting up everywhere i think they will soon be able to do you with a fine via the post if your car is picked up by the system. You only have to drive down Princes parkway into Manchester to see how many are being installed.

[SnoopZ]

Just a reminder of the upcoming car tax disc changes.

From 1st October 2014 we can all remove our car tax discs from our windscreens and throw them away.

From 1st November 2014 vehicles needing to be taxed can do so via Direct Debt, Annually, 6 monthly or Monthly, you can also do this online or via the phone or post office.

More info here.

[Derek]

Still a crap idea with all attention on short term savings with no thought for the bigger picture.

[richard s]

I will keep my disc on display until it runs out just in case some Traffic Warden or Police personal does not remember about the law change.

[BenMcr]

Can't see any point removing it early if it's not required - although tbh it's more likely to members of the public who forget about the change rather than the police etc.

Will be interesting to see how many people get reported by 'concerned citizens'

[heero_yuy]

Deffo going to keep mine displayed 'til it runs out next year. We'r up to our armpits in interfering busybodies concerned citizens and take-no-prisoners traffic wardens down here.

[richard s]

Quite right Ben it will be interesting, also if you use the Dartford Crossing in Kent, from October 1st the barriers will be gone and you will have to book text, e-mail, phone to pay for the crossing. Camera number plate recognition will be inforce.