'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated - Page 37

Russ · 16-08-2014, 13:17

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I don't think anyone has ever suggested such a "plot", but I just thought it was funny that your attempt at sarcasm went down like a wet fart.

You don't think anyone has suggested such a plot....right, I guess you switch off when the CF racist squad post in here? Or is it denial?

Escapee · 16-08-2014, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Russ

Why would you say that? If there was such a plot wouldn't 'Muslim' names be dominating that list?

http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...e-times-census

I thought the claims were that the plot was to dominate the schools they were already in. (In areas where they have a high population)

The stats in the link say that the Muslim population of the UK is around 4.8% and although 10% of children are born to them it means their domination nationwide is a little way off yet.

Pierre · 16-08-2014, 13:24

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Originally Posted by Russ

You don't think anyone has suggested such a plot....right, I guess you switch off when the CF racist squad post in here? Or is it denial?

To take over the "country"? No.

They've certainly taken over certain isolated small enclaves, but like Escapee says, they're still some way off the whole of the country.

Russ · 16-08-2014, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Pierre

To take over the "country"? No.

They've certainly taken over certain isolated small enclaves, but like Escapee says, they're still some way off the whole of the country.

Finally a post that makes sense. The biggest proponent of the "they're trying to take over the country" has gone and got himself banned but it's been claimed to be happening plenty of times in the past. There's zero evidence of it but that didn't make much difference and I doubt the lack of 'Muslim' names in that list will change anything either.

Escapee · 16-08-2014, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Pierre

To take over the "country"? No.

They've certainly taken over certain isolated small enclaves, but like Escapee says, they're still some way off the whole of the country.

Quite Pierre,

I bet the figures for Mohammed or any other spelling would be different if we looked at individual registrars offices. I would bet the Bradford stats would be a bit different from Llandeilo for example.

Taf · 16-08-2014, 13:58

One of my neighbours has mohamed TWICE in his name. Does he count twice?

**Hugh** · 16-08-2014, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Escapee

Quite Pierre, I bet the figures for Mohammed or any other spelling would be different if we looked at individual registrars offices. I would bet the Bradford stats would be a bit different from Llandeilo for example.

Definitely.

For instance, Harri is the 29th most popular in Wales, but it's 974th in England...

Similarly, Osian is 31st in Wales, 1634th in England, Jack is 39th in Wales and 1471st in England, Tomos is 41st in Wales and 1634th in Wales, and Gethin is 47th in Wales and 818th in England.

Lots of regional differences.

Escapee · 16-08-2014, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Definitely.

For instance, Harri is the 29th most popular in Wales, but it's 974th in England...

Similarly, Osian is 31st in Wales, 1634th in England, Jack is 39th in Wales and 1471st in England, Tomos is 41st in Wales and 1634th in Wales, and Gethin is 47th in Wales and 818th in England.

Lots of regional differences.

I'm not sure of it's the same in England, but historically Jack wasn't the name registered at birth. I know some older generation (most now departed) who were called Jack, but their birth name was John. I believe it was due to their being so many with the name John Jones or John Evans in the area, that some were referred to as Jack to avoid confusion.

I think the spelling Jac started to become popular here when it started to be seen by some to be trendy to speak Welsh.

Pierre · 16-08-2014, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Escapee

I'm not sure of it's the same in England, but historically Jack wasn't the name registered at birth. I know some older generation (most now departed) who were called Jack, but their birth name was John. I believe it was due to their being so many with the name John Jones or John Evans in the area, that some were referred to as Jack to avoid confusion.

I think the spelling Jac started to become popular here when it started to be seen by some to be trendy to speak Welsh.

Indeed, Jack, Archie, Stan, Freddie, Ted, etc. are all names that I see on the pegs at my sons nursery. All of which are shortened versions of names now used as proper names.

**Maggy** · 16-08-2014, 16:10

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

some of the names some kids get lumbered with borders on child abuse

I agree.I've seen enough children flinch at registration to know this..plus the arguments about non standard spelling of names can get a teacher into trouble over pronunciation.

Qtx · 16-08-2014, 16:29

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

some of the names some kids get lumbered with borders on child abuse

Whats wrong with calling your kid Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Skoda etc?

Trying too hard when you call your kid Charisma, Bliss, Trixie-tinkerbell or a name perceived as cool, rather than just something different and unique.

TheDaddy · 16-08-2014, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Indeed, Jack, Archie, Stan, Freddie, Ted, etc. are all names that I see on the pegs at my sons nursery. All of which are shortened versions of names now used as proper names.

There's loads of 'em, some of which aren't even shortened, Harry for Henry for instance, Jamie and Jimmy for James and so on

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Whats wrong with calling your kid Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Skoda etc?

Trying too hard when you call your kid Charisma, Bliss, Trixie-tinkerbell or a name perceived as cool, rather than just something different and unique.

Talua did the hula from Hawaii's parents got done for child abuse in Australia iirc, where as little aryan race's parents received no sanction in the US

**Maggy** · 16-08-2014, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Whats wrong with calling your kid Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Skoda etc?

Trying too hard when you call your kid Charisma, Bliss, Trixie-tinkerbell or a name perceived as cool, rather than just something different and unique.

I regard it as child abuse because parents aren't thinking of the child just of their status within their social group..Some parents treat naming their child as though they are naming a pet.

Qtx · 16-08-2014, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I regard it as child abuse because parents aren't thinking of the child just of their status within their social group..Some parents treat naming their child as though they are naming a pet.

Pet or fashion accessory. Totally agree, although I assume you saw my comment was said in jest

Then you have the ones that miss the obvious, which was unfortunate for one person at my school. If your name is Mr and Mrs King, you don't name your kid Wayne...

Taf · 16-08-2014, 19:11

In some countries, parents' name choices can be vetoed at registration.

A French couple the missus knows had so many kids they ran out of ideas, so they decided to name the next few after the Saints day they were born on (found on calenders sold annually by the firemen).

The last one was vetoed... he was born, they checked the calender... and it said FeteNat, so they shrugged and thought that was OK.

The trouble is it means National Holiday (Bank Holiday).