How big are VM's infills? - Page 2

Pierre · 02-07-2014, 09:38

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Pierre,

Thank you. Can you name me any roads where there is fibre infrastructure?

Ring Road Middleton, Middleton Park Road, Thorpe Lane A654?

Cost was looked into previously and it didn't seem good.

Ignitionnet · 02-07-2014, 16:04

Ta.

If the black is cabled areas not sure if those are completely accurate, I can see at least one area there which is not cabled but has black running down the streets.

Picking on one of those, ls10 4uq, no cable there. 4TU, TX, UN, black lines down the streets but no cable and no CATV covers in the street. Planned but not built?

Pierre · 02-07-2014, 19:20

Could be, I'm not a planner.

GrimUpNorth · 02-07-2014, 22:32

I use Lingwell Road and Acre Road every few days so I'll have a look and see if there are any signs of VM (be early next week now though).

It's a shame LCC won't share some of their bandwidth with you - we've got a pretty good connection in the offices just across the field from you.

Cheers

Grim

Ignitionnet · 06-07-2014, 21:55

I've checked several postcodes in these areas.

There is no VM on that map that I can see. The Think Broadband map appears to be correct and for some reason these weren't built.

Ignitionnet · 09-07-2014, 16:50

Okay looks like the drops weren't built but there is fibre network nearby, going by the Telewest inspection cover and seam in a pavement.

Sirius · 09-07-2014, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Ta.

If the black is cabled areas not sure if those are completely accurate, I can see at least one area there which is not cabled but has black running down the streets.

Picking on one of those, ls10 4uq, no cable there. 4TU, TX, UN, black lines down the streets but no cable and no CATV covers in the street. Planned but not built?

Could be trunk routes or Limit of construction.

Ignitionnet · 09-07-2014, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Could be trunk routes or Limit of construction.

There's certainly a trunk route there; the cable network here would've been CWC then ntl, coming off Leeds Seacroft I'd have thought. Also just looking at the route of said big black line it goes down a major road, cuts through a housing estate, then onto another major road in the general direction of Wakefield, Dewsbury and Ossett.

Certainly looks like there were plans to tap said fibre / stick CATV in the ducts which didn't happen.

EDIT: Unsure what the red line is there but the thick black line can be accounted for at least for so far.

http://outsizefiles.leeds.gov.uk/str...43A&CallerID=3

Indeed it makes it to the main raid and off to Tingley.

http://outsizefiles.leeds.gov.uk/str...0A&CallerID=39

EDIT 2: The red line is fibre belonging to BSkyB, originally Easynet.

http://outsizefiles.leeds.gov.uk/str...30&CallerID=13
http://outsizefiles.leeds.gov.uk/str...S16&CallerID=9

Nedkelly · 09-07-2014, 21:10

One of the things they look at is how many people would sign up if we go into a area . We had 2 Villages that were missed out the trunk fibres went passed these villages . The local residents got to gather and went round the villages to see what people thought . They then went to BT BDUK and Virgin BT were not interested as they had no plans for the villages until 2014 . They won some money from the BDUK but the would have to come up with a plan to secure the money . At first Virgin said no but the group did not give up then Virgin looked at the information they had got . They had to be neutral when doing the survey giving the home owner multiple choices plus at the end of the day all they wanted in the villages was better broadband and didn't care who provided it . Virgin set up some meetings with the villagers and were quite impressed with the amount of pledges they got if they came into the villages . Both villages got over 55% sales heading to 60+ so virgin are very happy with that . So one way is to get a local group formed it worked for the villages as other areas have been in touch with the team about what to do and how to put there case to virgin .

Ignitionnet · 10-07-2014, 00:15

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Originally Posted by Nedkelly

One of the things they look at is how many people would sign up if we go into a area . We had 2 Villages that were missed out the trunk fibres went passed these villages . The local residents got to gather and went round the villages to see what people thought . They then went to BT BDUK and Virgin BT were not interested as they had no plans for the villages until 2014 . They won some money from the BDUK but the would have to come up with a plan to secure the money . At first Virgin said no but the group did not give up then Virgin looked at the information they had got . They had to be neutral when doing the survey giving the home owner multiple choices plus at the end of the day all they wanted in the villages was better broadband and didn't care who provided it . Virgin set up some meetings with the villagers and were quite impressed with the amount of pledges they got if they came into the villages . Both villages got over 55% sales heading to 60+ so virgin are very happy with that . So one way is to get a local group formed it worked for the villages as other areas have been in touch with the team about what to do and how to put there case to virgin .

Already done, 2 years ago.

Now have one of the highest uptakes of BT FTTC anywhere.

Ignitionnet · 12-07-2014, 12:27

'Apparently' complicating the issue is that although there is fibre nearby it doesn't go to Seacroft where the local hubsite is

Pierre · 13-07-2014, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

'Apparently' complicating the issue is that although there is fibre nearby it doesn't go to Seacroft where the local hubsite is

You say the chambers on the fibre route are Telewest?

You also rightly point out that Leeds is an exCWC franchise.

I haven't checked, but I will, but I would assume the trunk is obviously exTelewest connecting Bradford to Wakefield and Barnsley.

However, that is not to say that it can't be connected to a fibre that runs to Seacroft. So if the will was there to build that area, it could be done.

Was on a call on Friday, and infills are going to be a major priority in the coming years. Manchester got a big write, didn't hear so much about Leeds though.

But if it stacks up, there's the best chance in over a decade it that it could be built

Ignitionnet · 14-07-2014, 10:50

Thanks Pierre. We have a VM staffer in this area also, he's mentioned that Liberty are 'imminently' opening up the cheque book for infills, and mentioned that to get HFC to the nearest property to the current network c. £20k was mentioned as a cost.

What worries me more is that I think there's a section 58 between that fibre cable and where we want it to be

Ignitionnet · 14-07-2014, 17:00

Kinda attached - any idea if this got done?

http://outsizefiles.leeds.gov.uk/str...3A&CallerID=12

Closed off, but not on your map there. It looks as though there was going to be a build down Belle Isle Road, and you can happily trace the route.

Don't think it happened!

BenJSmyth · 16-07-2014, 16:57

We are keen to get VM services in our new development. The house that is literally over the fence from our very small (16 house development) is on VM as are the other houses in the street directly leading into our close.

Cable My Street have said that a survey has been done on our area but that it is prohibitively expensive to install the services but they may revisit the site in the future.

I have Sky and it sucks, come on VM!