Will Scotland Leave the UK? - Page 95

Mr Angry · 14-05-2014, 20:28

@Damien & Chris

Chaps, seriously, no need to get so defensive.

It's only a link to a news story about a poll that took place, the supposed outworkings of which are being speculated upon.

**Damien** · 14-05-2014, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

@Damien & Chris

Chaps, seriously, no need to get so defensive.

It's only a link to a news story about a poll that took place, the supposed outworkings of which are being speculated upon.

Yes but it's a negative story for Unionists as, since we perceive it to be flawed, we have a go at it for those flaws.

I'll be glad when this vote is over. I am surprised how emotional and depressing it's all become.

Mr Angry · 14-05-2014, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Damien

I'll be glad when this vote is over. I am surprised how emotional and depressing it's all become.

Ditto.

Osem · 14-05-2014, 23:11

It's not depressing for me. If enough people buy Salmond's nonsense, Labour's electoral advantage will largely disappear. If they don't then we'll be better off together...

**Damien** · 14-05-2014, 23:15

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It's not depressing for me. If enough people buy Salmond's nonsense, Labour's electoral advantage will largely disappear. If they don't then we'll be better off together...

Labour would have won at least two of their three elections. It would only favour the Tories in close run elections such as the last one. Still Labour would adjust to the right to compensate. Just as the Scottish Nat's dreams of a Toryless Scotland would be dashed by the arrival of a rebranded Scottish Conservative party free from the image of Thatcher and co and able to tailor their message to Scotland without having to consider the English Home Counties vote.

Scotland leaving would be horrible for all concerned IMO.

**Chris** · 15-05-2014, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

@Damien & Chris

Chaps, seriously, no need to get so defensive.

It's only a link to a news story about a poll that took place, the supposed outworkings of which are being speculated upon.

Mr A, I have detected in several of your recent replies to me, an assumption that I'm being defensive. That's not the case, except in the sense that I'm 'defending' the contrary view. But I'm not getting personally agitated about it. No need to worry on that score.

Mr Angry · 15-05-2014, 07:36

Derek · 15-05-2014, 10:01

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Originally Posted by Damien

I'll be glad when this vote is over. I am surprised how emotional and depressing it's all become.

Think it's bad now, Salmond is the first Scot in history actually wanting England to win the World Cup just to get the inevitable anti-English bounce in the polls.

For such an important vote with such far reaching implications the standard of campaigning and information is disgraceful. The most recent cinema advert for yes is one step away from Braveheart asking for a yes vote without giving a thought for any potential downsides.

Osem · 15-05-2014, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Damien

Labour would have won at least two of their three elections. It would only favour the Tories in close run elections such as the last one. Still Labour would adjust to the right to compensate. Just as the Scottish Nat's dreams of a Toryless Scotland would be dashed by the arrival of a rebranded Scottish Conservative party free from the image of Thatcher and co and able to tailor their message to Scotland without having to consider the English Home Counties vote.

Scotland leaving would be horrible for all concerned IMO.

It's not about favouring the Tories, it's about wiping out an unfair advantage Labour have enjoyed and it'd benefit all the other parties in the rest of the UK.

@ Maggy J - Nor is about not wanting a credible opposition 'whomever is in power'. Labour would be just as credible in opposition as they are now, indeed they'd have to try a lot harder.

Still, we digress.

**Damien** · 15-05-2014, 13:38

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It's not about favouring the Tories, it's about wiping out an unfair advantage Labour have enjoyed and it'd benefit all the other parties in the rest of the UK.

Do you mean the boundaries? That would still be a problem without Scotland I think.

Osem · 16-05-2014, 09:12

This'll definitely be dismissed as 'bullying' north of the border:

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In just over five years Britain will have run out of oil, coal and gas, researchers have warned.

A report by the Global Sustainability Institute said shortages would increase dependency on Norway, Qatar and Russia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27435624

How credible these figures are remains to be seen but it does rather highlight a major and impending problem. Someone remind me what Plan B is again...

Derek · 16-05-2014, 14:16

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Someone remind me what Plan B is again...

Whisky. Sell more of that.

Plan C is haggis, D is deep fried food and E is hoping for hosepipe bans in England to sell the water.

TheDaddy · 16-05-2014, 14:30

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Whisky. Sell more of that.

Plan C is haggis, D is deep fried food and E is hoping for hosepipe bans in England to sell the water.

What about wind, alec's got enough in him to power all those wind turbines by himself

Osem · 16-05-2014, 16:11

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Whisky. Sell more of that.

Plan C is haggis, D is deep fried food and E is hoping for hosepipe bans in England to sell the water.

Remind me who it was here not so long ago who advocated trucking water down to the parched south...

TheDaddy · 16-05-2014, 16:29

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Remind me who it was here not so long ago who advocated trucking water down to the parched south...

It was you wasn't it, if it wasn't you I'm sure you thought it a very good idea at least