'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated

Originally Posted by Pierre

That has to be the poorest example ever used on this forum to try and make point.

Laughable

Really?

Can you point out the difference between the Irish Catholics moving into this country in large numbers, and the topic of this thread?

The exact same things that are being discussed in this thread were said about the Irish Catholics* (taking over areas, no-go areas, comments about their religion, etc) that are being now used against Muslims.

*being of Irish Catholic background, I have direct experience of this...

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

So if you're being serious. then you have no problem with them yourself

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Or it might just be that they don't ask for things. they don't demand things. they don't want things to be done different ways. they don't get offended. they don't want to be different.

As opposed to whom?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Fixed that for you.

Now you've left out the colour that you were being serious about.

The EDL are white. a lot of people see them as a problem.
but to describe them we might give them a skinhead. or a big pair of boots.
so wouldn't it be good if Muslims were the same colour as everyone else. and we can just describe them with a pink wooly hat. that way we can get the colour and language thing out the way. and it won't be a distraction for when it comes to discussing them.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Can you point out the difference between the Irish Catholics moving into this country in large numbers, and the topic of this thread?
.

The difference between Irish Catholics and Muslims trying to islamise our schools?

I'm not going to indulge you.

The fears and concerns of sections of this country in regards to Islamic enclaves are real. Persons such as yourself and Russ, who refuse to acknowledge that there is an issue are just the same as the politicians that also refuse to accept it.

And because no one speaks out and/ or refuses to address the issue either because they're too afraid of the debate, scared of being branded racist or, as in Russ's case, just doesn't care as it doesn't affect him, the people it does affect are heading into the welcome arms of UKIP, or worse far right groups.

We should stop making excuses and start looking for ways to address these concerns.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The fears and concerns of sections of this country in regards to Islamic enclaves are real. Persons such as yourself and Russ, who refuse to acknowledge that there is an issue are just the same as the politicians that also refuse to accept it.

And because no one speaks out and/ or refuses to address the issue either because they're too afraid of the debate, scared of being branded racist or, as in Russ's case, just doesn't care as it doesn't affect him, the people it does affect are heading into the welcome arms of UKIP, or worse far right groups.

We should stop making excuses and start looking for ways to address these concerns.

Well said.
I think you've said it all.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ

That's because they're usually white and invariably speak the same language as us...

Wear the same clothes, have same values, eat the same food, have the same values, have the same faith, have the same values, have the same names, have the same values........

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Pierre

as in Russ's case, just doesn't care as it doesn't affect him

You might want to point out where I've said that otherwise you just look like you're making it up to score points.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Wear the same clothes, have same values, eat the same food, have the same values, have the same faith, have the same values, have the same names, have the same values........

Some people simply dislike 'different' or 'change'. Not an uncommon trait I guess.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

You might want to point out where I've said that otherwise you just look like you're making it up to score points.

In regards to you 'not caring. as it doesn't affect you'

- so you get to keep all the nutters and they leave us alone. I can live with that.

- Well wherever I am there's no sign of a Muslim 'take-over' going on.

- But there are hardly any Muslims around here...

- Well as long as the nutter element stays indecisive I'm happy.

- I explain that's not the case as there are few if any Muslims around here.

- ...when I was clearly talking about my own area.

Most are in relation to you not caring as it doesn't affect you. and some could be seen as you not seeing it. simply because where you are there aren't any. so you don't care.

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

You want to be in my home town when the local mosque turns out. I feel like a stranger in my own country.

I feel the same way.

All these English people turning up in Wales. They don't even speak the language

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ

You might want to point out where I've said that otherwise you just look like you're making it up to score points.

Posts 272, 274, 276

You made it quite clear there were no or very few Muslims where you live, therefore obviously isn't an issue as far as you're concerned.

Some people simply dislike 'different' or 'change'. Not an uncommon trait I guess.

Depends if that different ,or change, fundamentally changes the world you live in.

[Russ]

Ok then:

so you get to keep all the nutters and they leave us alone. I can live with that.

Well as long as the nutter element stays indecisive I'm happy.

Both making references to 'nutters' (not 'Muslims'). Would you be happy or displeased if there were no 'nutters' in your area?

- Well wherever I am there's no sign of a Muslim 'take-over' going on.

- But there are hardly any Muslims around here...

- I explain that's not the case as there are few if any Muslims around here.

- ...when I was clearly talking about my own area.

So making an observation that there aren't many Muslims in my area equates to saying "I don't care"? Impressive attempt at an unsuccessful grasp there.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by rhyds

I feel the same way.

All these English people turning up in Wales. They don't even speak the language

We only come to check on the welfare of the sheep

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Originally Posted by Russ

Ok then:

I forgot the one about where you said. I'd like to see them try

But we'll just class them as 'nutters' too. so as to separate them.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I forgot the one about where you said. I'd like to see them try

Explain how that's me saying I don't care.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Explain how that's me saying I don't care.

So you do care?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

So you do care?

Before I answer have we establish that I haven't said I don't care?