General : Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by ncfc1902

Yes I've had a letter, although it's for half price sports and movies, rather than just sports.

Ok thanks.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Superblade7

I do honestly think Sky should reduce the HD charge on VM if they want to deal with the competition from BT. I know BT currently offer less channels / content but you get SD & HD all in for £15.

On Sky, Sky Sports Collection is £22 plus £5.25 if you want HD (£27.25 for both SD & HD). On VM it's £27.25 for just the SD and then an extra £7 if you want HD (£34.25 in total). So it costs approx. 25% extra on VM.

I think they'd probably see an increase in the number of subscribers to the Sky Sports Collection on VM if they removed the HD charge or at least dropped it to say £3 to bring the price in at around £30 all in.

I do subscribe for a month here and there but would definitely consider keeping it more often if it was less than £30 per month including HD.

However, I appreciate it's unlikely to happen but the more the price keeps going up, the more people are going to start cancelling.

The competition is coming on all fronts for Sky none more so than the sporting rights , Den posted an interesting link earlier today. Hopefully these offers on premiums will be more frequent , as you say VM XL sub's include BT Sports in HD at no extra cost making Sky Sports in its current form and price a hard sell.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post2477.html

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by andy_m

I've still not had any news about this half price sky sports deal - has anyone else, or just theone2k10? (Obviously I don't mean "just" in the pejorative!)

You did really lol just kidding mate.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

The competition is coming on all fronts for Sky none more so than the sporting rights , Den posted an interesting link earlier today. Hopefully these offers on premiums will be more frequent.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post2477.html

Interesting times ahead

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

You did really lol just kidding mate.

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Interesting times ahead

prices going up and up times ahead as always as they will both up bids big time

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Dave42

prices going up and up times ahead as always as they will both up bids big time

Eventually there'll come a breaking point where people say "enough is enough" Sky, bt etc bidding stupid money for sports will be their own downfall in the long run i think.

[Mad Max]

The bottom line here is this imo, we are getting rogered by $ky! Them and BT are paying silly money for football rights, which go to lining the pockets of overpaid and mostly very ordinary spoiled brat football players, It's now becoming out of the reach for the ordinary guy to subscribe to these companies for sports viewing, disgusting actually!

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

The bottom line here is this imo, we are getting rogered by $ky! Them and BT are paying silly money for football rights, which go to lining the pockets of overpaid and mostly very ordinary spoiled brat football players, It's now becoming out of the reach for the ordinary guy to subscribe to these companies for sports viewing, disgusting actually!

You took the words right out of my mouth mate, i've been telling people this for ages now. These high prices are why people will seek alternative methods of viewing sports and movies.

[Superblade7]

Originally Posted by nicko

On Sky you have to be on the top priced pack which is 'Family' also called 'HD basic' without this you can't add HD Sky sports, this effectively means that the cheapest price to get Sky Sports HD is £59 a month ( family HD basic + HD pack + sky sports collection)

Virgin is cheaper to get Sky sports in HD because you don't need any other channel packages to buy it.

I was comparing the like for like costs of Sky Sports on both providers.

With VM you do actually need to have a TV subscription in order to add Sky Sports. The minimum standalone TV pack currently advertised as available being the M+ pack at £19 per month.

Therefore you are correct in the fact that you can get Sky Sports cheaper with VM in an overall package but not with a like for like package.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

The competition is coming on all fronts for Sky none more so than the sporting rights , Den posted an interesting link earlier today. Hopefully these offers on premiums will be more frequent , as you say VM XL sub's include BT Sports in HD at no extra cost making Sky Sports in its current form and price a hard sell.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post2477.html

I agree and really Sky could use VM as an ally. Making Sky Sports (and Sky Movies) cheaper on VM may make VM's packages more attractive but ultimately Sky make a lot of money from VM with the carriage deals for the Sky basics and premiums.

Originally Posted by theone2k10

Eventually there'll come a breaking point where people say "enough is enough" Sky, bt etc bidding stupid money for sports will be their own downfall in the long run i think.

I personally think we are very near that point as I know many of my friends and family (both Sky and VM subscribers) who've reviewed their packages and cancelled the Sky premiums due to the current costs. So this will happen more and more as the price increases.

[nicko]

Originally Posted by Superblade7

I was comparing the like for like costs of Sky Sports on both providers.

With VM you do actually need to have a TV subscription in order to add Sky Sports. The minimum standalone TV pack currently advertised as available being the M+ pack at £19 per month.

Therefore you are correct in the fact that you can get Sky Sports cheaper with VM in an overall package but not with a like for like package.

Actually you can get Sky sports HD on the Freeview package 'M' I know because I've done it!
It costs about £5 more which kind of offsets the lack of a package, instead of £34.25 it's £39.25.

As you can see this is £20 cheaper than you can access it on Sky but without the other pay channels.

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

You took the words right out of my mouth mate, i've been telling people this for ages now. These high prices are why people will seek alternative methods of viewing sports and movies.

and what happens when sky dont have the champions league coverage? prices to again go up. The uk actually gets laughed at by other countries for its ticket prices to football and subscription prices and its a disgrace no government in the last 20 years has tried to help the customer

[Media Boy UK]

Sky Movies Sci-Fi to have 'monster' week.

Virgin Media owned Smallworld has confirmed that Sky Movies Sci-Fi will have an dedicated week to all things monster to celebrate the premiere of Pacific Rim. 'Monster' week start May 12th and end on May 18th.

http://www.smallworldcable.com/News/...May-Highlights

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

and what happens when sky dont have the champions league coverage? prices to again go up. The uk actually gets laughed at by other countries for its ticket prices to football and subscription prices and its a disgrace no government in the last 20 years has tried to help the customer

It makes me laugh mate especially as Bein Sport only costs about £11.60p/m an you're getting 15 hd sports channels, ok only 2 are in English lol but those two show the football aswell as tennis etc. IMO it's far better value for money.

[Media Boy UK]

My Total Channels has gone down by one.

I think Virgin Media has removed Best Direct from Total Channels.

I have found that Virgin Media remove channels from Total Channels 90 days after they stop broadcasting. Best Direct was set to be removed on Good Friday.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

My Total Channels has gone down by one.

I think Virgin Media has removed Best Direct from Total Channels.

I have found that Virgin Media remove channels from Total Channels 90 days after they stop broadcasting. Best Direct was set to be removed on Good Friday.

This is done to allow people time to view any recordings that they have made from defunct channels. Seems a bit daft to apply the rule to shopping channels imo...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Dave42

prices going up and up times ahead as always as they will both up bids big time

Except Sky has pretty much reached what it can charge now and extra sports rights costs are now hitting its profits. It can't simply put up prices and expect the same number of subscribers to fork out more each month. If it could charge more each month it would have done so already, Sky's not a charity!

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

It makes me laugh mate especially as Bein Sport only costs about £11.60p/m an you're getting 15 hd sports channels, ok only 2 are in English lol but those two show the football aswell as tennis etc. IMO it's far better value for money.

It's far better value for money but £11.60pm does not cover its costs. It's heavily subsidised by the Qatar government from its oil revenues.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

and what happens when sky dont have the champions league coverage? prices to again go up. The uk actually gets laughed at by other countries for its ticket prices to football and subscription prices and its a disgrace no government in the last 20 years has tried to help the customer

Premier League prices are a joke, I agree. Also poor is the lack of capacity meaning length season waiting lists at clubs, they're letting their fans and cities down by not adding capacity.
Regarding TV subscription prices, I think you need to compare the UK to equivalent European countries like France, Germany and Italy. I'm sure, for example, viewers in these countries would find BT Sport with broadband very good value. It would be interesting to see a comprehensive comparison.