'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I sense this is going to get funny.

I stand corrected.

This has gone beyond "funny".

Well done all concerned.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Qtx

No, we are talking about concepts of religion, not the history of individual religions.

RE classes teach pupils about the different religions. I'm still waiting for an answer to my questions about which other 'things' you think have been as influential as religion.

Meanwhile, back on the topic, the Telegraph has got hold of a leaked copy of a report made by inspectors from the DfE after a visit to some Birmingham schools last month. The report substantiates a lot of the complaints that have been made and the governing bodies of the schools concerned are thoroughly peeved that the information has gone public.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...n-Muslims.html

[Gary L]

Religion can be so evil. all this is down to religion.

You wouldn't be reading this about British schools before now.
but now you are.

Have they put the school into special measures yet? Send in other teachers, suspend those running it etc?

Originally Posted by Gary L

Religion can be so evil. all this is down to religion.

You wouldn't be reading this about British schools before now.
but now you are.

It seems to me Gary that what you're trying to say is "Muslims can be so evil. All this is down to Muslims."

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Chris

It seems to me Gary that what you're trying to say is "Muslims can be so evil. All this is down to Muslims."

Some Muslims, Chris. some nutty Muslims.

Who want to take over the world with their nutty brains.

Originally Posted by Damien

Have they put the school into special measures yet? Send in other teachers, suspend those running it etc?

Schools - 3 of them in this particular report, all run by the same Trust.

The report is supposed to be confidential at this stage because the governors are supposed to get some time to read and respond to it. I assume any decisions about special measures etc would be taken after that.

The only reason we a reading this now is because someone has leaked it to the Telegraph.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Religion can be so evil. all this is down to religion.

You wouldn't be reading this about British schools before now.
but now you are.

So all the beautiful music,art,architecture that have come from religion is evil I suppose.

Sometimes I wish we could do without your very unedifying comments because you add absolutely nothing to most discussions.Indeed you add very little that is edifying to the entire site let alone be helpful in any way.

Originally Posted by Chris

Schools - 3 of them in this particular report, all run by the same Trust.

The report is supposed to be confidential at this stage because the governors are supposed to get some time to read and respond to it. I assume any decisions about special measures etc would be taken after that.

The only reason we a reading this now is because someone has leaked it to the Telegraph.

"We are extremely disappointed that our entitlement to confidentiality has been breached and we will not comment any further.”

They do not have an entitlement to confidentiality imo ,they are servants of the local community and should stop acting like a little dictatorship .

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

So all the beautiful music,art,architecture that have come from religion is evil I suppose.

Sometimes I wish we could do without your very unedifying comments because you add absolutely nothing to most discussions.Indeed you add very little that is edifying to the entire site let alone be helpful in any way.

What is wrong with what I said?
Religion 'can' be so evil.
what's wrong with that?

If I were to say pedos can be so evil. you're not going to say "so all the beautiful music, and art that have come from them is evil" are you.

Originally Posted by Gary L

What is wrong with what I said?
Religion 'can' be so evil.
what's wrong with that?

If I were to say pedos can be so evil. you're not going to say "so all the beautiful music, and art that have come from them is evil" are you.

saying that religion can be so evil is like saying guns murder people or knives stab people

People who mis use religion ,guns or knives can be evil

Originally Posted by Gary L

What is wrong with what I said?
Religion 'can' be so evil.
what's wrong with that?

If I were to say pedos can be so evil. you're not going to say "so all the beautiful music, and art that have come from them is evil" are you.

Better.Now maybe you are starting to debate.We can only hope...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

saying that religion can be so evil is like saying guns murder people or knives stab people

People who mis use religion ,guns or knives can be evil

So I've got to change it to people who are religious can be so evil?

---------- Post added at 11:19 ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 ----------

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Better.Now maybe you are starting to debate.We can only hope...

I'm debating now because you've realised you were wrong?

Anyway. get rid of these nice misguided people and replace them with nicer people.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Qtx

It should be covered under history lessons in my opinion. There is not a single reason why religion should have its own lessons. Another option is to replace RE lessons with a Morality, culture, world/life observations and philosophy type combined lesson

I would actually disagree here. Religion is a part of current life, not history, and crosses over into sociology and other things. It does require its own lessons as, regardless of opinion of it, it is a strong influence in the lives of billions and shapes aspects of how they live their lives.

At very least a precursory understanding of a variety of beliefs is vital to understand the 'human condition'.

---------- Post added at 11:24 ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 ----------

Originally Posted by Maggy J

This whole thread really underlines why I think religion should be left at the school gates and RE as a subject should be taught as a multi-faith subject only.

I agree 100%, unfortunately just as there are religious fundamentalists there are also those who take secularism a tad too far and want all reference to it banned from our schools which undermines secularism just as fundamentalism undermines moderate religion.

---------- Post added at 11:27 ---------- Previous post was at 11:24 ----------

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I stand corrected.

This has gone beyond "funny".

Well done all concerned.

Well impressed by how it progressed in a matter of not much more than 12 hours.

Needed the recovery time, back to about the mental capacity of a root vegetable now.

---------- Post added at 11:30 ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 ----------

Originally Posted by Chris

Meanwhile, back on the topic, the Telegraph has got hold of a leaked copy of a report made by inspectors from the DfE after a visit to some Birmingham schools last month. The report substantiates a lot of the complaints that have been made and the governing bodies of the schools concerned are thoroughly peeved that the information has gone public.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...n-Muslims.html

Screams of Islamophobia, complaints to everyone from the Prime Minister down, and threats of legal action in t-minus....