'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated

Originally Posted by peanut

An you're the one who just loves to argue and insult. No point in discussing when you're around is there.

It is a stupid idea ,it has been tried in the past and it never ends well ,history proves that

[Russ]

Originally Posted by peanut

I'm all for teaching, but less on the preaching at an early age. Would be a better way to say it.

Ok, I think we're getting a bit closer to reality now. The thing is what you may consider to be 'less' preaching could be regarded as the correct amount or 'not enough' to someone else. By saying parents should be 'banned' from discussing religion with their kids or reducing it, you're coming across as if you're trying to preach your views on to us....indeed telling us we're "wrong" and informing us how we should live our lives.

But back to your suggestion, what sort of things would be permitted to be discussed?

Originally Posted by peanut

No I didn't mean ban as in outright, as we all know that's impossible. And stupid, and to mean it as illegal, that's just crazy.

I'm all for teaching, but less on the preaching at an early age. Would be a better way to say it.

in other words keep things as they are now pretty much

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Russ

Ok, I think we're getting a bit closer to reality now. The thing is what you may consider to be 'less' preaching could be regarded as the correct amount or 'not enough' to someone else. By saying parents should be 'banned' from discussing religion with their kids or reducing it, you're coming across as if you're trying to preach your views on to us....indeed telling us we're "wrong" and informing us how we should live our lives.

But back to your suggestion, what sort of things would be permitted to be discussed?

I didn't say banned from discussing. I admit 'banned' was the wrong word as it's too strong obviously.

I agree with you when you say I'm telling you which is wrong I do admit that now as you've said it, but that's how these religious thread go (and easily so) unfortunately.

I just think children should be old enough to make up their own minds, that's all.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by peanut

I just think children should be old enough to make up their own minds, that's all.

100% agree with that, the issue however is the people who think Religious Education is another way to force kids in to religion are usually the same ones who think parents bringing their children up in a Christian environment will be forcing/brainwashing it in to them.

Nothing to suggest either are correct.

Originally Posted by peanut

I just think children should be old enough to make up their own minds, that's all.

That is nearly always the case

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

100% agree with that, the issue however is the people who think Religious Education is another way to force kids in to religion are usually the same ones who think parents bringing their children up in a Christian environment will be forcing/brainwashing it in to them.

Nothing to suggest either are correct.

American parents and children are really bad for it.

[broadbandking]

Originally Posted by martyh

That is nearly always the case

Care to prove that, religion is only for people that followers anyways, it causes more problems

[Russ]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

Care to prove that, religion is only for people that followers anyways, it causes more problems

Asking martyh to prove his point whilst making an unsubstantiated claim of your own....

Originally Posted by broadbandking

Care to prove that, religion is only for people that followers anyways, it causes more problems

The number of teenagers and people in general not going to church would suggest that they are not being forced and they are exercising their right not to be religious

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Russ

Of course there is. To educate about religions.

Why? Do we have lessons specifically to educate children about cults? Oh wait...

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Qtx

Why?

To combat some of the appalling and ignorant misconceptions about religions.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by peanut

You just can't help yourself can you.

Discussion on this forum is getting harder and harder to participate in these days.

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Russ

To combat some of the appalling and ignorant misconceptions about religions.

Why do you think this needs a whole dedicated class? People have misconceptions about many things, we don't have a dedicated class for each of them. Should we start having lessons dedicated to misconceptions of cults?

Religions are just cults that have more people following them when you break it down to it's basics. If half the world were Scientology followers then that would be considered ok and we would be debating if the followers could wear Darth Vader masks (whatever their thing is) in public facing jobs. That may sound strange but that is exactly what we do with older, more established religions.

This whole thread really underlines why I think religion should be left at the school gates and RE as a subject should be taught as a multi-faith subject only.