Malaysian Airline plane disappears

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

well a group who have hacked into where they have they are hardly script kiddies

A few of them are good at what they do but the majority are hangers on who are nothing more than script kiddies

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

A few of them are good at what they do but the majority are hangers on who are nothing more than script kiddies

And it's always the script kiddies that the few hang out to dry...

Originally Posted by Chris

Or, possibly, because the "theory" is actually just an extrapolation based on one or two facts which ignores a vast number of problems, the most obvious being that bringing down an airliner in order to kill off four of the passengers is using an almighty sledgehammer to crack a nut. There are far easier ways to do it. And in any case the perpetrator of this crime screwed up. In this scenario the perp either needs all the patent owners out the way, in which case he managed to expend an awful lot of effort in the act of not killing all of term, or else the perp is the remaining patent owner, in which case he has made himself prime suspect in an act of mass murder.

Ultimately, of course, the explanation for this also has to account for the behaviour of the plane in the hours before it crashed. This was not a straightforward destruction of an aircraft, as would be the aim of someone who wanted to simply do away with one or more of the passengers.

Historically, the practice of senior executives not sharing planes is not unheard of but would be considered unnecessarily paranoid these days. The world doesn't fly on DC-10s and Comets any more and Pan-Arab nutters can't hijack them as easily. I don't think your observation about Dunlop adds any light to the present mystery.

As for Anonymous, well if they stopped being so anonymous we might be able to judge whether any of them is qualified in any sphere that would add value to their speculation. However I don't expect that to happen any time soon.

well if they did that they would be in prison so its not likely is it

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Originally Posted by Sirius

A few of them are good at what they do but the majority are hangers on who are nothing more than script kiddies

how do you know?

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

did you watch it ?

tell me what parts of the video you found laughable ie what pieces of information

My father worked all his life for Dunlop. A period of their history they partnered with a company called eldec . While this was going on my father visited the company in the States where he was told high ranking company members never flew on the same plane as to ensure the company was safe

Now at least 20 engineers from Freescale were on the flight if 4 of these were patent owners as Anonymous claims that leaves the patent that was awarded 4 days after the disappearance this leaves the patent owned by only 1 person. If also there is work on these semi conductors that are being worked on that are being developed for cloaking it is at least humorous that patent holders of it may have been on an aircraft that no one can find

I find it funny that it has been written off by the few who have responded purely on the grounds Anonymous posted it.

Standard practice in the 70s and 80s (I used to work for a couple of US companies, and if coders were working on critical stuff, they had fly on different planes) - very few companies follow this practice nowadays.

Originally Posted by Hugh

Standard practice in the 70s and 80s (I used to work for a couple of US companies, and if coders were working on critical stuff, they had fly on different planes) - very few companies follow this practice nowadays.

yeah it would have been the 80s. I can not remember what city was hit with a quake quite a bad one a bridge collapsed well he just missed it thankfully

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Not all conspiracy theories are wrong.

But until a year ago you were a tin foil hat wearer if you claimed the worlds communications were being logged, stored and eavesdropped on or if you said that intelligence agencies could intercept your requests for web pages and display their own instead. Now we know they were doing it.

There has been some weird angles to this story with this plane but there is little chance of us ever knowing for sure. Like the Al Hilli murder in the Alps, the conspiracy theories that have intriguing factual information surrounding them are the ones that are more likely to be accepted as a possibility.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Pretty big. You can't write small with a crayon.

Your ignorance on Anonymous is clear to see with that comment. An assumption based on popular media stories rather than fact.

Originally Posted by Qtx

But until a year ago you were a tin foil hat wearer if you claimed the worlds communications were being logged, stored and eavesdropped on or if you said that intelligence agencies could intercept your requests for web pages and display their own instead. Now we know they were doing it.

There has been some weird angles to this story with this plane but there is little chance of us ever knowing for sure. Like the Al Hilli murder in the Alps, the conspiracy theories that have intriguing factual information surrounding them are the ones that are more likely to be accepted as a possibility.

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Your ignorance on Anonymous is clear to see with that comment. An assumption based on popular media stories rather than fact.

exactly some people do not have a clue yet speak with authority on a subject they are totally clueless on

The very fact so many are prepared to just accept without looking for themselves bewilders me

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

exactly some people do not have a clue yet speak with authority on a subject they are totally clueless on

The very fact so many are prepared to just accept without looking for themselves bewilders me

erm the fact that so many are prepared to look without just accepting is why groups like anonymous are shown to be idiots .It took about 30seconds to show the claim you posted yesterday was rubbish

Originally Posted by martyh

erm the fact that so many are prepared to look without just accepting is why groups like anonymous are shown to be idiots .It took about 30seconds to show the claim you posted yesterday was rubbish

lol

credit where it is due this time you appear to be the only one watched or done anything with it no one else has even answered if they watched it or not

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

lol

credit where it is due this time you appear to be the only one watched or done anything with it no one else has even answered if they watched it or not

and yet you still insist i am talking rubbish whereas if you had bothered to check their story you wouldn't have bothered to post it ,i watched 10 seconds ,did 30 seconds of googling and came up with the means to check their story which turns out to be a load of bollocks.You really should follow your own advice sometimes .

The list that the patent holders do not appear on


The patent in question

Originally Posted by martyh

and yet you still insist i am talking rubbish whereas if you had bothered to check their story you wouldn't have bothered to post it ,i watched 10 seconds ,did 30 seconds of googling and came up with the means to check their story which turns out to be a load of bollocks.You really should follow your own advice sometimes .

The list that the patent holders do not appear on


The patent in question

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I will send you a blue peter badge

Originally Posted by Qtx

But until a year ago you were a tin foil hat wearer if you claimed the worlds communications were being logged, stored and eavesdropped on or if you said that intelligence agencies could intercept your requests for web pages and display their own instead. Now we know they were doing it.

There has been some weird angles to this story with this plane but there is little chance of us ever knowing for sure. Like the Al Hilli murder in the Alps, the conspiracy theories that have intriguing factual information surrounding them are the ones that are more likely to be accepted as a possibility.

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Your ignorance on Anonymous is clear to see with that comment. An assumption based on popular media stories rather than fact.

Erm, not true.....

I think you will find I have stated repeatedly on this forum that we should all assume that anything anyone does on the internet or other communication methods is tracked, and if of interest, analysed.

tbf, that's because of my previous employment history...

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

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I will send you a blue peter badge

better still check your sources next time ,then you won't look so foolish

Originally Posted by martyh

better still check your sources next time ,then you won't look so foolish

lol

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I think you will find I have stated repeatedly on this forum that we should all assume that anything anyone does on the internet or other communication methods is tracked, and if of interest, analysed.

tbf, that's because of my previous employment history...

Of that we are aware Sir Hugh

The point being if you mentioned Echelon or a exotic leaked project name the vast majority of people automatically assume you are a David Icke nutcase who is talking about something non-existent and thus it's a nonsense conspiracy. Even when there is multiple proper trusted documented evidence pointing towards it.

In this particular case there is still nowhere near enough evidence to say what has happened, although some explanations are more likely than others. The thing is, I wouldn't put it past a government or organisation to knock this plane out of the sky for financial reasons or other unknown reasons. Many have done a lot of other things that are extremely questionable and the chances of getting caught considering the location and other variables would be extremely low in this case. To completely throw this possibility out of the window as a nutcase conspiracy doesn't make sense.