[MERGED] Windows 8 discussion

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I thought the Start Menu was in this update

no they made it clear it in either another update to 8.1 or windows 9 next year most probably in a new update to 8.1 later this year

why in Christs name is this not called a service pack? I already have windows 8.1 on my pc now they want me to install windows 8.1 update on windows 8.1 it makes no sense

[arcimedes]

Downloading now

Originally Posted by Dave42

no they made it clear it in either another update to 8.1 or windows 9 next year most probably in a new update to 8.1 later this year

Eh? The official video on YouTube for the update clearly states they included a start menu in this update. I'm confused now then

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Slyder

Eh? The official video on YouTube for the update clearly states they included a start menu in this update. I'm confused now then

no they said in build in a future update

---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:12 ----------

This post will focus mostly on the UI changes - there may be future AskPFE Platforms posts that dive into some of the other aspects of the Update.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, let's cover a few heads-up/FAQ comments:

•It will likely change your system's current behavior:

◦For starters, unless the device is a tablet, a system with this update will boot to the desktop by default
◾You can still choose one way or another but I was surprised when I rebooted and was taken to my desktop instead of my Start screen

◦See the chart further down in the post for a clear list of what default settings are changed and how

•It does NOT include the Start menu that you may have seen/heard about at the recent Build conference. That is some exciting near-future stuff, which demonstrates our on-going commitment to deliver on customer feedback (such as your comments on this very blog) •It is defined as an "Important – Security update" in our Windows Updates framework
•It is a cumulative update to Windows 8.1 that includes all previously released security and non-security updates

•It is a required update to keep your Windows 8.1 device current
◦Failure to install this Update will prevent Windows Update from patching your system with any future updates starting with Updates released in May 2014 (get busy!)


•Windows 8.1 is a prerequisite (vs Windows 8 RTM)
◦Windows 8.1 media/WIMs/TechNet ISOs/Store bits/etc will be slipstreamed with this Update in the near term

•KB2919442 is a pre-requisite update - released in March 2014 – you'll need this before 2919355 will be recognized

•Additional info can be found in the KB – which obviously, you should read
◦http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2919355


•The Assessment and Deployment Kit (ADK) has been updated to accommodate the changes to Windows with this Update

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

why in Christs name is this not called a service pack? I already have windows 8.1 on my pc now they want me to install windows 8.1 update on windows 8.1 it makes no sense

I think it's that apart from XP SP2 which really should have been called XP.1 or something, Service Packs aren't really supposed to introduced new functionality - they are supposed to be security patch roll ups only.

Originally Posted by Dave42

no they said in build in a future update

---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:12 ----------

This post will focus mostly on the UI changes - there may be future AskPFE Platforms posts that dive into some of the other aspects of the Update.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, let's cover a few heads-up/FAQ comments:

•It will likely change your system's current behavior:

◦For starters, unless the device is a tablet, a system with this update will boot to the desktop by default
◾You can still choose one way or another but I was surprised when I rebooted and was taken to my desktop instead of my Start screen

◦See the chart further down in the post for a clear list of what default settings are changed and how

•It does NOT include the Start menu that you may have seen/heard about at the recent Build conference. That is some exciting near-future stuff, which demonstrates our on-going commitment to deliver on customer feedback (such as your comments on this very blog) •It is defined as an "Important – Security update" in our Windows Updates framework
•It is a cumulative update to Windows 8.1 that includes all previously released security and non-security updates

•It is a required update to keep your Windows 8.1 device current
◦Failure to install this Update will prevent Windows Update from patching your system with any future updates starting with Updates released in May 2014 (get busy!)


•Windows 8.1 is a prerequisite (vs Windows 8 RTM)
◦Windows 8.1 media/WIMs/TechNet ISOs/Store bits/etc will be slipstreamed with this Update in the near term

•KB2919442 is a pre-requisite update - released in March 2014 – you'll need this before 2919355 will be recognized

•Additional info can be found in the KB – which obviously, you should read
◦http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2919355


•The Assessment and Deployment Kit (ADK) has been updated to accommodate the changes to Windows with this Update

Well that's a bit of a let down.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Slyder

Well that's a bit of a let down.

how as those that want a start menu know it is coming back when it ready

Originally Posted by BenMcr

I think it's that apart from XP SP2 which really should have been called XP.1 or something, Service Packs haven't really introduced new functionality - they are supposed to be security patch roll ups only

that being the case then it should be 8.2

and service packs by definition add updates features and enhancements so it is a service pack

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

that being the case then it should be 8.2

and service packs by definition add updates features and enhancements so it is a service pack

Microsoft said after windows 7 service pack 1 they be no more service packs

Originally Posted by Dave42

Microsoft said after 7 service pack 1 they be no more service packs

until this one which is a service pack but a miss named one to show they are full of poop

[BenMcr]

End of the day, Microsoft can call them whatever they like. It's really not worth worrying about

Originally Posted by BenMcr

End of the day, Microsoft can call them whatever they like. It's really not worth worrying about

not worried I know it is a service pack

[Hom3r]

Will this Win 7 work on my Samsung NC-10 (2GB RAM), or is a different version needed, and is a cheaper version required.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wi...ords=windows+7

[Ben B]

That will work fine, a lot of Netbooks come with Windows 7 Starter which is just Home Premium with personalisation/aero disabled and no Media Center. I had the starter but it came with an Anytime Upgrade key for Home Premium and there was no decrease in performance