Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Mr Angry]

Plenty of tickets still available.

I like Eddie Izzard. Why can't he come to London to do the show!? Honestly, all these Scotland-centric events that take place in Scotland, instead of London, are a joke.

[Mr Pharmacist]

Keith Morroni, a global transport consultant, explains the 'spiral interchange' method of crossing from a country which drives on the left to one that drives on the right. As part of post-independence planning, some nationalists have also begun a programme to replace all of Scotland's road signs http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/v...deo?CMP=twt_gu

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist

Keith Morroni, a global transport consultant, explains the 'spiral interchange' method of crossing from a country which drives on the left to one that drives on the right. As part of post-independence planning, some nationalists have also begun a programme to replace all of Scotland's road signs http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/v...deo?CMP=twt_gu

To be honest based on some of the bull coming out of the yes brigade that could very well be deemed real

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chris

This is so brain dead it's beyond parody.

A couple of other things to note:

1. Putin seems to be doing a good job of effectively annexing the old Soviet states, so probably not a good idea to rely on them for evidence.
2. A lot of the countries shown are part of Europe. How truly independant are they?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Damien

I like Eddie Izzard. Why can't he come to London to do the show!? Honestly, all these Scotland-centric events that take place in Scotland, instead of London, are a joke.

Did they not give London their fashion awards last year?

Originally Posted by Stuart

A couple of other things to note:

1. Putin seems to be doing a good job of effectively annexing the old Soviet states, so probably not a good idea to rely on them for evidence.
2. A lot of the countries shown are part of Europe. How truly independant are they?

Especially the Benelux countries which have had a close union since well before the EU got to its current state.

But don't sweat over it too much - as I said, it's so brain dead it's really beyond parody, never mind anything approaching intelligent discussion.

Meanwhile, another day, another SNP fantasy blows up in Eck's face.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...licy-1-3364890

The Scottish Parliament Information Centre (SPICe) has said there are not enough Scottish mothers who want to go back to work to deliver the dramatic increase in revenue predicted in the Scottish Government’s white paper for independence.

Generating a childcare revolution that would increase tax revenues by getting more mothers back to work was the key announcement when the blueprint for independence was launched last year. Mr Salmond argued that independence was the only way of achieving his vision for a “transformative” expansion of childcare.

The SPICe paper said: “The increased output and tax revenues rely on up to 104,000 women moving from economic inactivity into economic activity. At present, there are only 64,000 mothers of one to five-year-olds who are economically inactive.”

Even the Scots are bullying Scotland now!

Pathetic isn't it. You would have thought that after 7 years in power the SNP wouldn't still be quite this pathetic at policy development, but mislaying 40,000 women in their calculations is poor, even by their low standards.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Even the Scots are bullying Scotland now!

Yeah but that's only because of the English...

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Damien

Even the Scots are bullying Scotland now!

Yep, it's a worrying trend. In the unlikely event of a yes vote in September the very next day these beauties will be getting put up at Gretna.



They might be expensive but if the oil money doesn't pay for them I'm sure some other creative accounting will.

Latest Panelbase poll shows 'Yes' vote increasing - Yes 47%, No 53%.

Times (behind Paywall)

On the pro-independence websites, it's quite amusing to see people say "well, the margin of error is 3%, so that means the voting could be 50/50". It also means it could be 44/56......

Strangely enough, only the results for the headline question have been released, and the rest will be released tomorrow - I don't know if it's connected, but this is the same polling company that gives consistently higher (than the other polling organisations) results for the yes vote, and whose questioning methodology was queried on its previous poll by having two very, how can I put it, 'leading*" questions before the main question.

*Q1. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Scotland could be a successful, independent country?

Q2. Who do you trust to take the best decisions for Scotland: the Scottish Government or the Westminster Government?

Here's a fairly 'independent' (see what I did there?) view on the poll - whatscotlandthinks

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Strangely enough, only the results for the headline question have been released, and the rest will be released tomorrow - I don't know if it's connected, but this is the same polling company that gives consistently higher (than the other polling organisations) results for the yes vote, and whose questioning methodology was queried on its previous poll by having two very, how can I put it, 'leading*" questions before the main question.

From another forum I frequent.

well i was just invited to a Panelbase survey on independence .

talk about propaganda .

when asking questions about yes/snp they mentioned wealth creation,fairer society etc

when talking about better togethers campaign they mentioned not keeping pandas at edinburgh zoo or not being able to watch dr who

it was a tick the box survey and not one where i would be able to express my views in writing

Maybe not the best polling company to rely on.

Panelbase has been pretty much discredited. They invite people to sign up and make themselves available for polling, and recently had to close their polls to new sign-ups because they had a sudden flood of them around the time the SNP started using them for its public polling on the referendum.

Unsurprisingly, with a disproportionate number of cybernats on its books, Panelbase's polls routinely show higher support for separation than any other polling organisation. And yes, their methodology is highly suspect, with a number of leading questions in the mix to help produce the 'right' result.

Panelbase is being used as a political tool by the Yes campaign to try to create the illusion of momentum and IMO they have become professionally compromised as a result.

[Sirius]

I so wish they would get this over and done with.