[MERGED] Windows 8 discussion

[denphone]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

They were not wrong at all about tablets and mobile interfaces. It is clear there has been a switch to mobile computing . They were just incorrect about the place Windows had in it at this time.

I to had no issues with Vista as I have no issues with Windows 8 and the very fact I was totally correct about there being "fixes" for the start menu straight away and always has been all along means that windows 8 in all fairness is no different to any other windows operating system since 95. People are afraid of change

Codswallop tiz as if it ain't broke don't try to fix it as what we had before was perfectly adequate for many of us.

Originally Posted by denphone

Codswallop tiz as if it ain't broke don't try to fix it as what we had before was perfectly adequate for many of us.

I personally would like to see advancements in technology settling for "perfectly adequate" simply is not what IT and technology is about. So I take umbridge at your accusation that I was talking codswallop

[denphone]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I personally would like to see advancements in technology settling for "perfectly adequate" simply is not what IT and technology is about. So I take umbridge at your accusation that I was talking codswallop

The thing is before Window 8 the vast majority were happy wherever once that was released the unhappiness and chaos unfolded as customers unleashed their ire at the mess Microsoft had got itself into over this.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by denphone

The thing is before Window 8 the vast majority were happy wherever once that was released the unhappiness and chaos unfolded as customers unleashed their ire at the mess Microsoft had got itself into over this.

the thing is Den lots of customers love Windows 8 too it the haters that been most vocal but it don't disguise the fact lots love it too and as tiz rightly said People are afraid of change as was same when first big UI change from windows 3.11 to windows 95 same happened then too

Originally Posted by denphone

The thing is before Window 8 the vast majority were happy wherever once that was released the unhappiness and chaos unfolded as customers unleashed their ire at the mess Microsoft had got itself into over this.

Windows suffers this every other release since win 98 irrelevant because people do not like change

The vast majority were happy with windows 95 do you think we should all still be on that?

People were happy with VHS, Audio Tape and CRT televisions does that mean we should stop trying to improve?

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Windows suffers this every other release since win 98 irrelevant because people do not like change

The vast majority were happy with windows 95 do you think we should all still be on that?

exactly mate

[techguyone]

MS dropped the ball in assuming that the mobile interface was a one stop solution for all forms of computing, then compounded it by losing the start menu too, bad mentality, I expect they felt because they had done similar with the Office suite and it's fricking stupid 'navigation ribbon' that they could make what changes they liked and we'd all go along with it quietly....

I expect if things like start8 and windows classics apps hadn't been available, the complaining would have been much worse, and we'd have had change already. I know If I'd been forced into metro only I'd not have gone with Windows 8 as my desktop workflow isn't practical using that type of device interface.

What will be interesting will be how the new CEO will choose to play things, and what Windows 9 will be like. Ballmer wasn't.... entirely right in the head.

[Sirius]

Funny that we are moving all our Pc's over to windows 7 at the moment, if windows 8 was that good why have they not used that instead. I use windows 8 but only because i can use startisback to make it as easy to use as windows 7. As long as there is a start menu and the mobile phone interface can be hidden for ever in the background then i will move to windows 9 as soon as its ready. Had the chance to use a windows 8 pro tablet and its clunky compared with Android and Ipad.

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

The vast majority were happy with windows 95 do you think we should all still be on that?

People were happy with VHS, Audio Tape and CRT televisions does that mean we should stop trying to improve?

Don't be silly, we should still be on Windows 2000

Windows 8 is super fast and is much better underneath than the previous windows. Unfortunately the GUI upgrade in the way they done it is counter-intuitive and so many agree that it is a complete failure that Microsoft are adding the Start menu back. They should have just spiced up the look a little and kept the usability similar to Windows 95/98/xp/vista/7.

Change for the sake of change is where they screwed up. No doubt some PR guy or someone with a 'Systems Architecture Futurist' type job description had to qualify their large salary by coming up with an idea that sounded great for the executives meetings. Something they could repeat to sound great, something like Unified Desktop Experience Across all Devices. Then explain that users of one device can use the other just fine and there is reduced marketing/production costs and those execs are sold!

Funny how MS insisted on pushing this touchscreen GUI out when the majority of PC users don't have touch screens and thus hate it. They are desperately trying to get people to use Windows 8 yet people who are moving from XP, now they are cutting off the support, are choosing to install Windows 7 instead of 8. At least now they have recognised what most of us have said from the start and bringing the Start menu back to solve their Metro failure.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Funny that we are moving all our Pc's over to windows 7 at the moment, if windows 8 was that good why have they not used that instead. I use windows 8 but only because i can use startisback to make it as easy to use as windows 7. As long as there is a start menu and the mobile phone interface can be hidden for ever in the background then i will move to windows 9 as soon as its ready. Had the chance to use a windows 8 pro tablet and its clunky compared with Android and Ipad.

windows 8 is that good newui just puts people off using the better operating system

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

windows 8 is that good newui just puts people off using the better operating system

yep and lot of people prefer the new UI too just the haters that shout the loudest

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Dave42

yep and lot of people prefer the new UI too just the haters that shout the loudest

Its not the haters shouting loudest at all Dave but about their utter balls up which has severely dented their reputation with a lot of customers and all they are trying to do now is playing catch up in order to try to restore their reputation with a lot of customers.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by denphone

Its not the haters shouting loudest at all Dave but about their utter balls up which has severely dented their reputation with a lot of customers and all they are trying to do now is playing catch up in order to try to restore their reputation with a lot of customers.

no it not a balls up it people don't like change this happened too when the first UI changed from windows 3.11 to windows 95 there doing right thing in making all there devices similar so can use there services on all their devices don't know why people cant see this

do you think Apple would have different OS's on their devices not a chance but because Microsoft make a OS for all their devices they are evil according to some people

[techguyone]

Heh that's funny

people don't like change this happened too when the first UI changed from windows 3.11 to windows 95

I don't know a single person who cried over the loss Windows 3xx it was shocking compared to 95


I suppose some gamers when their DOS orientated games didn't play so nice perhaps...

I used both in business, and whilst the 95 series didn't properly settle down until W2K even the earlier versions were miles better than the Win 3xxx

We mostly used NT4 anyway in the end, had the 95 look but absolutely rock solid under that - unless you were a gamer I suppose.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Dave42

no it not a balls up it people don't like change this happened too when the first UI changed from windows 3.11 to windows 95 there doing right thing in making all there devices similar so can use there services on all their devices don't know why people cant see this

do you think Apple would have different OS's on their devices not a chance but because Microsoft make a OS for all their devices they are evil according to some people

But the Ipad and iphone interfaces has not been implemented in OSX has it ???

Anyway here's a good review of the next 8.1 update of the update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLiIKmCidVw