The state benefits system mega-thread.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

....by some, not everyone.

Just the same as on this forum - some (not all) assume that all on benefits / disability or not are just scroungers.

+1

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

For example the tester could just not like the person he is testing and lie.

Same as the testee could just lie about what happened.

I'm sure the on occasion the ATOS people lie it's inherent to human nature.

To suggest that anyone doing work for ATOS will NEVER lie is just odd.

Absolute crap ,people lie if they have something to gain ,what does ATOS have to gain ?

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by martyh

Absolute crap ,people lie if they have something to gain ,what does ATOS have to gain ?

You don't think sometimes people lie just because they don't like someone?

[peanut]

Originally Posted by martyh

Absolute crap ,people lie if they have something to gain ,what does ATOS have to gain ?

To meet targets perhaps.

Originally Posted by peanut

To meet targets perhaps.

exactly this

[denphone]

Indeed some privates companies have a increasing habit of deceiving to make more profits.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...illions-pounds

[dilli-theclaw]

Also of course just because the company doesn't 'have a policy of lying' doesn't mean it's staff feel the same way.

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

You don't think sometimes people lie just because they don't like someone?

Maybe they do but,"they lie saying the ill are fit to work" and "They lie end of" is what i replied to and what i think is an idiotic statement

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Originally Posted by peanut

To meet targets perhaps.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

exactly this

Originally Posted by denphone

Indeed some privates companies have a increasing habit of deceiving to make more profits.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...illions-pounds

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Also of course just because the company doesn't 'have a policy of lying' doesn't mean it's staff feel the same way.

Jesus ,do you lot realise how paranoid and ridiculous you sound ,.......everybody are liars and out to get you

[peanut]

Atos assessors have been accused of falsifying or twisting information in order to deny ESA in a bid to reach government targets - a claim the DWP and Atos vehemently deny. In 2012, the BBC broadcast a Panorama documentary about the new WCA called Disabled or Faking it? in which the former employment minister, Chris Grayling, said: "there are no targets anywhere in the system." But, when the BBC asked to see the DWP’s full contract with Atos, the government refused.

Last year, several former employees have also come forward to tell their story. Dr. Greg Wood, a former Atos assessor, told the BBC: "I was instructed to change my reports, to reduce the number of points that might be awarded to the claimants. I felt that was wrong professionally and ethically.” Another whistleblower, Joyce Drummund, a former Atos Nurse, told a Scottish newspaper, the Daily Record that she was instructed to mark down claimants she knew were unfit for work

http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourking...failing-uk’s-m

Originally Posted by martyh

Maybe they do but,"they lie saying the ill are fit to work" and "They lie end of" is what i replied to and what i think is an idiotic statement

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Jesus ,do you lot realise how paranoid and ridiculous you sound ,.......everybody are liars and out to get you

well if they lie to say the ill are fit for work then they also lie end of

You are right everybody does lie even you of that I am sure

[denphone]

Its nothing about being paranoid at all but just stating facts that some might find hard to digest due to their slanted bias and prejudice towards certain subjects and threads.

Originally Posted by denphone

Its nothing about being paranoid at all but just stating facts that some might find hard to digest due to their slanted bias and prejudice towards certain subjects and threads.

so nothing to do with paranoia then ..........

Den you and some others on here really need to stop thinking that everybody is against you if everybody doesn't agree with you

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by martyh

Maybe they do but,"they lie saying the ill are fit to work" and "They lie end of" is what i replied to and what i think is an idiotic statement

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Jesus ,do you lot realise how paranoid and ridiculous you sound ,.......everybody are liars and out to get you

Interesting I don't recall saying everyone is out to get me. Still I suppose putting words in my mouth helps your point along no end.

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Interesting I don't recall saying everyone is out to get me. Still I suppose putting words in my mouth helps your point along no end.

he thinks it does but it does not lol

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Interesting I don't recall saying everyone is out to get me. Still I suppose putting words in my mouth helps your point along no end.

i didn't say you did .......paranoid much ?

You do however seem to expect others to lie as a matter of course