The state benefits system mega-thread.

Originally Posted by martyh

What about those who are swinging the lead or just plain faking an illness because it's easier than working ,they've managed to fool their gp and the specialist

shame I beat ya to it

the system does not work the medicals are flawed and always have been. The weakest the poorest and the most in need are suffering as I say I am not comfortable with that but you are I believe?

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

shame I beat ya to it

the system does not work the medicals are flawed and always have been. The weakest the poorest and the most in need are suffering as I say I am not comfortable with that but you are I believe?

How about you just answer the question instead of ducking it ,What about those who are swinging the lead or just plain faking an illness because it's easier than working ,they've managed to fool their gp and the specialist? who will assess them

Originally Posted by martyh

How about you just answer the question instead of ducking it ,What about those who are swinging the lead or just plain faking an illness because it's easier than working ,they've managed to fool their gp and the specialist? who will assess them

I already answered it with my post before yours . Making demands of me will never end in getting you what you want marty

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

the liar who blags their doctor is better equipped to blag and get through the ATOS medical than the honest patient who needs the help

The GPS and Consultants don't really consider the possibility of the patient lying, ATOS etc do.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The GPS and Consultants don't really consider the possibility of the patient lying, ATOS etc do.

Lying is one thing.

Being able to put a pen in your top pocket, another.

that pen and pocket costs peoples lives.
that pen and pocket pay Atos.

Originally Posted by nomadking

The GPS and Consultants don't really consider the possibility of the patient lying, ATOS etc do.

yes but as I said a liar is better equipped to blag their way through than a honest patient telling the truth and getting stitched up

The only way I see to catch them would involve a lengthy and expensive fraud investigation but then at least they could claw back some of the funds

All evidence I have seen clearly shows the work capability assessment is flawed and innocent people suffering which is wrong simple as. Do you think its ok for a few lives ruined to stop a few who lie? Is collateral damage acceptable ?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Exactly ATOS are government puppets and as I have said many times before the sick and the poor are being targeted to appease the tax payer

Looking forward to seeing the evidence you have to back up that claim

Originally Posted by Pierre

Looking forward to seeing the evidence you have to back up that claim

all the evidence I need has been posted and the TV show I referred to months ago proves it all this argument has gone on and on for months

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

the liar who blags their doctor is better equipped to blag and get through the ATOS medical than the honest patient who needs the help

In that case, blame the person, not the system

Originally Posted by Pierre

In that case, blame the person, not the system

no

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

all the evidence I need has been posted and the TV show I referred to months ago proves it all this argument has gone on and on for months

I haven't seen it.

Provide links to the program and the other sources you submit

Originally Posted by Pierre

I haven't seen it.

Provide links to the program and the other sources you submit

done it a long time ago not gonna do it again

this thread is almost a year old I will pick and choose the bits I repeat. Pretty much everything has been said here multiple times over and over

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

no

Says it all, refusal to criticise those that set out to cheat the system, but nothing but vitriol and venom that have to work within it.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I haven't seen it.

Provide links to the program and the other sources you submit

Please

Originally Posted by Pierre

Says it all, refusal to criticise those that set out to cheat the system, but nothing but vitriol and venom that have to work within it.

yeah pretty much ATOS imo deserve no better. I have not applauded the cheats either just for balance just posted my opinion on how the cheats are better equipped to get through the assessment than the honest person ergo test flawed ( see I can repeat when I want)