Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Those are essentials for driving.

So. they're still a danger and a distraction.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

So. they're still a danger and a distraction.

They're essential risks (just driving on a road carries a risk), lighting up is not. Passing your driving tests indicates you're safe enough to take such risks.

[Gary L]

Well, wouldn't it be easier if they just included learning the technique of lighting up a cigarette in with all the other things of the test?

[blackthorn]

I usually get my Mrs to light one up for me and pass it over, the same if i want a sweety, she unwraps it and passes it over

[Gary L]

I've done that. I always either end up dropping it and screaming, or dropping it and swerving all over the road because I think it might be burning my seat.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Well, wouldn't it be easier if they just included learning the technique of lighting up a cigarette in with all the other things of the test?

Shame, you came real close to appearing sensible up until that point.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Shame, you came real close to appearing sensible up until that point.

You are implying that all the risks associated with driving are covered as being essential.

Passing your driving tests indicates you're safe enough to take such risks you said.

so why not include lighting up a cigarette?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

You are implying that all the risks associated with driving are covered as being essential.

Passing your driving tests indicates you're safe enough to take such risks you said.

so why not include lighting up a cigarette?

Because lighting up a cigarette is not essential to driving, as you well know. Looking at road signs and using the mirrors are essential to road safety.

[Taf]

Cameron having a go at people for smoking in cars with children.

At least most of them would have remembered to PUT their children in the cars before driving off...

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Instead of pushing for this ban, how about they ban vicious dogs in homes with children first?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...auled-dog.html

[Russ]

Off topic....

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Taf

Cameron having a go at people for smoking in cars with children.

At least most of them would have remembered to PUT their children in the cars before driving off...

---------- Post added at 15:40 ---------- Previous post was at 15:34 ----------

Instead of pushing for this ban, how about they ban vicious dogs in homes with children first?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...auled-dog.html

I brought dogs up on another forum and I did get some agreement but there is some people out there who think dogs are as precious as family members and get offensive at the idea that a dog can turn on a human, most people seemed to think tho whilst there is a risk its ok as long as the dog is trained right.

My view is that there needs to be law changes on dogs.

Something like this.

Introduce dog ownership licenses.
Forbid individual personal owners from getting a dog from one of those stray dog centres. (seems really common, my sister got her dog from one of these). As the history of the dog isnt known.
Ban more breeds.
Require dogs to be muzzled around children, so I dont think they should be banned around children but I do this they should be muzzled.

The uk is a very dog friendly country tho, no government will restrict the law barring a big news event that changes public opinion.

[Russ]

Which part of "off topic" wasn't clear?

To answer Stuart the study that showed eliquid to be more dangerous then tobacco has now been completely discredited although it is still trotted out often by those with an agenda towards ecigarettes. Reason why they can't start producing themselves is because that would show they have been lying about ecigs for the last few years and in the case of big pharma ecigs although supported by many medical professionals are not part of any smoking cessation program whilst nrt products by big pharma are and are sold to the NHS at massive profit.

If buying from reputable suppliers there are generally five ingredients propylene glycol which is in many things people ingest daily and is also used in some hospitals as an air sanitizer through air systems, vegetable glycerine also ingested daily by many millions in one form or another, water though not in all liquid, flavouring food grade already approved and on sale freely and nicotine base liquid usually in PG or VG pending on the type of vaper. There are studies being done on the effects of ecigarettes and eliquid and obviously it's going to be some time before we have a definitive answer but most independents will say that the likelihood of ecigarettes being anywhere near as harmful as tobacco are remote. There is an organisation called casaa where you can read up for more info I'm far from an expert on the subject.

Every smoker I know doesn't smoke in their cars when children are present neither do they smoke in their homes when children are there I know not all smokers are that considerate but more are then are not that needs to be remembered.

[Hom3r]

Personally I would ban smoking in cars full stop.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

+1

I'm an ex-smoker and looking back my attention was seriously impaired when trying to light a fag, flick the ash. dispose of the dog-end or trying to put the car out when a big chunk of fuming material got dislodged into the back of the motor.

Is that why you gave up smoking. because you're clumsy and kept setting fire to your cars?

I wouldn't ban smoking in cars. but I would put the price of them down.