Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association

[Derek]

Hmmm, so now they have voted to ban smoking in car with 'children' what will the Police do if a 17 year old is in the car alone after passing his test having a smoke?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Derek

Hmmm, so now they have voted to ban smoking in car with 'children' what will the Police do if a 17 year old is in the car alone after passing his test having a smoke?

Or, where he has children passengers that smoke themselves.

give him a ticket whilst the children in the back are puffing away.

I'm sick of the hypocrisy of governments they constantly hammer smokers and make a tidy amount from taxing them but won't outright ban it because of the revenue they would lose. Give it a rest already either back your mouth up and ban them totally or give it a rest and go hit someone else i'm sure there are some people that can suggest the next target. Also last time i looked granted couple of years ago but the amount the nhs spends on smoking related illnesses is beaten by the level of funding they get from tobaco taxation unlike alcohol.

To a point i think tobacco has become the easy target for cancer rates and whilst i would never say tobacco is safe because it isn't those rates have increased at a time when carr use has also skyrocketed. More study needs to be done to truly find all the causes of excessive cancer (i say excessive because we all have cancer it's the number of cells excelerating that causes the illness).

[007stuart]

Can you imagine in 18 yrs time the adverts on TV:

"Have you got a respiratory disease?, did your parents smoke in the car from 2014?

Well call Norfolk & Good Solicitors and we will sue your parents, it's your legal right!!"

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by 007stuart

Can you imagine in 18 yrs time the adverts on TV:

"Have you got a respiratory disease?, did your parents smoke in the car from 2014?

Well call Norfolk & Good Solicitors and we will sue your parents, it's your legal right!!"

Sue the police as well. for not enforcing it.

it'll probably be around that time that people will be suing the government for stress and anxiety attacks.

and suing them for having a member of the family that commited suicide due to what will be considered a hate crime in the future

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by toonlight

That why the tobacco lobbyists are on the bandwagon drumming up the anti for banning the E cig as to every guess right, they've had it too good for too long greasing the wheels of power in governments electoral years.

They banned the use of them in some places, as that state get funding from tobacco companies or indirectly for state elections funny how money corrupts over public interest on large level. Given the price on fags these days, if I was a smoker - I'd be on the E cig's not long after any price rise due government tax it's a no brainier plus you can get lot of MG levels (high - low -none) not mention the different flavours you could enjoy think about for a minute, you get that from a fag of different brands my guess you don't. Last point like all things in life eg: nicotine you get different grades as the pro movement to banning of E cig's won't point out is it's the same liquid nicotine you get in (nicotine) smokers chewing gum & patches which I remember right was the same products they put on the market to the need of people quitting the habit from pressure from the government.

Has any serious testing been done to check if e cigs are safe? The devices themselves are safe, but what about the myriad of fluids you can buy to put in them? The reason I ask is there is apparently some evidence that some of the fluids on sale are considerably more dangerous than tobacco.

Before you bring out the conspiracy theory that big tobacco companies are pressuring the government to make e cigs illegal, bear in mind that they don't need to. If the market is profitable, they can simply start manufacturing e cigs and the associated fluids.

[Gary L]

I was thinking about this.
are we going to see big bustups at school gates, supermarket car parks, anywhere and everywhere where we see a parent/adult with a ciggie in their mouth with their kids approaching cars. and everyone runs over to the car banging the windows and dragging the adult out.

is someone going to get physically assaulted because we've got another thing come out from government where society turns against each other?

what happens if it's an e-cig?

what if I was to see a woman getting into her car with a ciggie in her mouth and 2 kids. because it's illegal and there's a danger that the child may die. am I within my rights as an upstanding and law abiding citizen to scare the crap out of the woman and child by banging furiously on the windows preventing her from leaving the scene?

will the police be on my side when they turn up?

what if we can't find her car keys that I threw away so as to prevent a crime from being commited?

Infact. shouldn't I be out there now preventing this crime. why am I not thinking about the children today. instead of tomorrow when I get the official nod from the nanny police?

[weenie]

I think banning smoking in car's is a good thing, where children are but banning smoking in car's full stop I do not think will happen ...

[Russ]

I don't understand why using a phone while driving is illegal yet lighting up a cigar/cigarette/pipe behind the wheel isn't.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

I don't understand why using a phone while driving is illegal yet lighting up a cigar/cigarette/pipe behind the wheel isn't.

You're saying you want smoking banned? is that what you're saying?

anyway. who can prove you lit it up whilst driving. you might have lit it at the lights when you were stopped.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

You're saying you want smoking banned? is that what you're saying?

No, I was saying I don't understand why using a phone while driving is illegal yet lighting up a cigar/cigarette/pipe behind the wheel isn't.

Originally Posted by Gary L

anyway. who can prove you lit it up whilst driving. you might have lit it at the lights when you were stopped.

It's illegal to use a phone at the lights too.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

No, I was saying I don't understand why using a phone while driving is illegal yet lighting up a cigar/cigarette/pipe behind the wheel isn't.

I think you should be saying smoking the cigar/cigarette/pipe behind the wheel. instead of just the initial lighting of it up.

It's illegal to use a phone at the lights too.

Unless it's in a cradle.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think you should be saying smoking the cigar/cigarette/pipe behind the wheel. instead of just the initial lighting of it up.

No, I know what I said. Smoking a cigarette and lighting one up are 2 different things. One takes your eyes and concentration off the road for a few moments.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

No, I know what I said. Smoking a cigarette and lighting one up are 2 different things. One takes your eyes and concentration off the road for a few moments.

Ok.
but I think reading road signs and the speedometer, and looking in the mirrors, and the sat nav, and talking, singing, shouting at other drivers. is a danger too.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Ok.
but I think reading road signs and the speedometer, and looking in the mirrors, and the sat nav, and talking, singing, shouting at other drivers. is a danger too.

Those are essentials for driving. Lighting up a cigarette and the other stuff you mention (if proven) would place the blame on you in the event of an accident, as well as potentially causing a death.