General Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014 - Page 67

RichardCoulter · 08-02-2014, 14:48

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

It would be a good idea for HBO shows to be made available for whoever wants them and negate the need to subscribe to Sky Atlantic to do so. I don't suppose Sky would be happy, but who cares about them

I wonder how many VM viewers would use an app to obtain HBO shows or SA via a TiVo app?

I set up a poll earlier today to try and gauge what people think about this.

So far, it looks like people are not willing to pay any extra over and above their VM subscription in order to receive Sky Atlantic.

Many thanks to those who have voted, if anybody else wishes to make their feelings known, the poll can be found here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35670385

Mad Max · 08-02-2014, 15:52

I should read OB's posts before I go to bed, they are defo sleep inducing.....

denphone · 08-02-2014, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

I should read OB's posts before I go to bed, they are defo sleep inducing.....

Come on Max whether people agree or disagree with people's posts this thread would be less entertaining if we all agreed with each other.

Mad Max · 08-02-2014, 15:59

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Originally Posted by denphone

Come on Max whether people agree or disagree with people's posts this thread would be less entertaining if we all agreed with each other.

Den mate, lighten up, i didn't say i agreed or disagreed with his posts,they just send me to sleep reading them

denphone · 08-02-2014, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Den mate, lighten up, i didn't say i agreed or disagreed with his posts,they just send me to sleep reading them

Just a bit of banter dear chap.

Mad Max · 08-02-2014, 16:12

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Originally Posted by denphone

Just a bit of banter dear chap.

I agree......

Dave42 · 08-02-2014, 21:54

well it been a slow start to new year hopefully it pick up soon

theone2k10 · 08-02-2014, 22:10

Lovefilm/Amazon OD could be on VM by the end of Summer 2014 according to a rumour i got today.

08-02-2014, 22:52

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke

...you must see that if something 'was done' about that, then VM would be made to wholesale their 120Mb broadband so it could be bought for the same price from Sky..

This isn't the same thing, it's not even close. There's a big difference between content and infrastructure. A true comparison would be Sky making HBO content exclusive to on their tv platform and VM making YouTube content exclusive to their broadband platform.

The broadband speeds available on VM are the reward for their investment in infrastructure. Buying up exclusive content rights from third parties isn't very innovative. I don't think these discussions would even take place if Sky had adopted an innovative approach, produced the content themselves and retained the exclusive rights to it for their platform.

denphone · 09-02-2014, 08:08

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

Lovefilm/Amazon OD could be on VM by the end of Summer 2014 according to a rumour i got today.

Now that would be nice.

09-02-2014, 08:32

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Originally Posted by jj20x

This isn't the same thing, it's not even close. There's a big difference between content and infrastructure. A true comparison would be Sky making HBO content exclusive to on their tv platform and VM making YouTube content exclusive to their broadband platform.

The broadband speeds available on VM are the reward for their investment in infrastructure. Buying up exclusive content rights from third parties isn't very innovative. I don't think these discussions would even take place if Sky had adopted an innovative approach, produced the content themselves and retained the exclusive rights to it for their platform.

It may or may not be the same thing but Sky would argue that it's an exclusive deal that is restrictive in its nature. As for VMs investment in their infrastructure, it could be argued that they made a minimal investment, preferring to buy that infrastructure for a pittance from the liquidators of the failed businesses who made the real investment in the 80s.

And surely you can't be saying that 'Fish Town' wasn't innovative?

09-02-2014, 17:51

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke

Sky would argue that it's an exclusive deal that is restrictive in its nature.

No, a restrictive deal would be VM having exclusive use of a third party's infrastructure. If say, VM broadband was being carried exclusively over BT fibre and Sky was excluded you would have a point. It isn't, they are using their own infrastructure, there is no "deal", restrictive or otherwise.

09-02-2014, 18:09

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No, a restrictive deal would be VM having exclusive use of a third party's infrastructure. If say, VM broadband was being carried exclusively over BT fibre and Sky was excluded you would have a point. It isn't, they are using their own infrastructure, there is no "deal", restrictive or otherwise.

Ahh. I get it. It's OK for VM to have their infrastructure all to themselves, but not for BT.

But to be honest, I don't feel the need to pursue this any further as it is an aside to the point I was making to Den. Which was that if 'Something was done' about exclusive deals it would not only effect Sky.

09-02-2014, 20:34

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Ahh. I get it. It's OK for VM to have their infrastructure all to themselves, but not for BT.

BT had to open up their infrastructure as it had largely been publicly funded when the telecoms industry was a nationalised monopoly, the GPO.

VM infrastructure was privately funded.

09-02-2014, 20:54

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Originally Posted by jj20x

BT had to open up their infrastructure as it had largely been publicly funded when the telecoms industry was a nationalised monopoly, the GPO.

VM infrastructure was privately funded.

Oh yes, how silly of me. I should have remembered that from when I bought my shares. Over 30 years ago, wasn't it? Still can't remember any mention of fibre optic broadband in the prospectus though...