Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window - Page 359

denphone · 07-02-2014, 06:56

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Originally Posted by nstokes

So sad to be posting this but Vidic to leave Man Utd

http://bit.ly/1l2eI3d

He was a great servant but time and tide waits for no man.

Shadow Demon UK · 07-02-2014, 11:01

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The Football Association will reconsider its decision to uphold a three-match ban for West Ham striker Andy Carroll on Friday.

So if a decision goes against you, whinge and threaten legal action and you will get your way...

denphone · 07-02-2014, 11:16

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

So if a decision goes against you, whinge and threaten legal action and you will get your way...

If the FA had any brains they would have rescinded the red card and the 3 match ban from the very start.

MalteseFalcon · 07-02-2014, 11:31

Exactly den. For one, it was not intentional to catch Flores at all in the face. Two, he caught him in the forehead and he went down clutching his nose and mouth. I am amazed the FA didn't rescind it on appeal first time around. Hopefully the tribunal see sense.

Shadow Demon UK · 07-02-2014, 11:35

He swung his arm back with intention to hit him, even if he didn't catch him fully and Flores over reacted. A red may have been harsh, but it was not obviously wrong. West Ham just need to get on with it and stop moaning.

denphone · 07-02-2014, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

He swung his arm back with intention to hit him, even if he didn't catch him fully and Flores over reacted. A red may have been harsh, but it was not obviously wrong. West Ham just need to get on with it and stop moaning.

There was absolutely no intent to hit him at all and the player went down like he had just been shot when we all know he went down with the sole intention of getting him sent off and that in my mind is cheating and thus he should be the one being punished in my humble opinion.

Shadow Demon UK · 07-02-2014, 12:00

Well its a matter of opinion whether there was intent or not, in my opinion there was, you can see it in his face and the way he swung his arm round. The ref agrees, the FA agrees. The reaction of Flores has nothing to do with it. As i said, a red was probably a bit harsh but its not obviously wrong, you can see why it was given, therefore it can't/shouldn't be overturned.

colin25 · 07-02-2014, 12:08

I thought that carroll did not need to swing the arm.

Petulance more than anything else.

denphone · 07-02-2014, 12:19

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Originally Posted by colin25

I thought that carroll did not need to swing the arm.

Petulance more than anything else.

Rubbish as It was six of one and half a dozen of the other but sadly Flores chose to over react massively in order for the referee to react and send Carroll off and that in my mind and many others is cheating to gain a advantage by foul means.

colin25 · 07-02-2014, 12:28

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Originally Posted by denphone

Rubbish as It was six of one and half a dozen of the other but sadly Flores chose to over react massively in order for the referee to react and send Carroll off and that in my mind and many others is cheating to gain a advantage by foul means.

I am not arguing the point about the reaction, though noting, it was a reaction.

But carroll did not need to swing his arm. It wasn't for balance (he was already down).

Forgetting the reaction (as that is after the fact), Carroll had no reason to swing his arm, except to do something. Whether he catches the guy should be irrelevant.

denphone · 07-02-2014, 12:47

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Originally Posted by colin25

I am not arguing the point about the reaction, though noting, it was a reaction.

But carroll did not need to swing his arm. It wasn't for balance (he was already down).

Forgetting the reaction (as that is after the fact), Carroll had no reason to swing his arm, except to do something. Whether he catches the guy should be irrelevant.

Come on Colin this is supposed to be a mans game or it used to be but the way it is going its becoming a cheater's charter l am afraid.

colin25 · 07-02-2014, 13:30

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Originally Posted by denphone

Come on Colin this is supposed to be a mans game or it used to be but the way it is going its becoming a cheater's charter l am afraid.

A man's game? Carroll tries to take a swipe, and that is a man's game?

Shall we go back to the 70's? Leave the boot in, break a leg? Is that what you are advocating?

You seem to be confusing the reaction with the intent.

The reaction was wrong, but if the intent to hit someone wasn't there, this wouldn't have happened.

denphone · 07-02-2014, 13:45

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Originally Posted by colin25

A man's game? Carroll tries to take a swipe, and that is a man's game?

Shall we go back to the 70's? Leave the boot in, break a leg? Is that what you are advocating?

You seem to be confusing the reaction with the intent.

The reaction was wrong, but if the intent to hit someone wasn't there, this wouldn't have happened.

l am not confusing anything as he was shrugging the guy off in my opinion and he slightly messed his hair up and in my humble opinion I don’t think you should get sent off for messing somebody’s hair up.

Football on the main in the 70's was far fairer and yes there were one or two tackles but nothing more then now.

colin25 · 07-02-2014, 13:58

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Originally Posted by denphone

l am not confusing anything as he was shrugging the guy off in my opinion and he slightly messed his hair up and in my humble opinion I don’t think you should get sent off for messing somebody’s hair up.

Football on the main in the 70's was far fairer and yes there were one or two tackles but nothing more then now.

Tosh (with a capital "T" no less).
Shrugging him off? Or taking a swipe at him.

And you seem to be confusing history. Football in the 70s wasn't anything like today, and thank goodness. Tackles then were atrocious.

If you tried to play football, they would just try and cripple you. I suspect your memory is going Den, though to be fair, 70s was about 40 years ago.

If football was played in that style now, it wouldn't be worth watching.

Next you will be telling me you miss all the other attitudes at the time, that were deemed "acceptable". UK gold has some repeats, if you are nostalgic for the old days.

denphone · 07-02-2014, 15:06

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Originally Posted by colin25

Tosh (with a capital "T" no less).
Shrugging him off? Or taking a swipe at him.

And you seem to be confusing history. Football in the 70s wasn't anything like today, and thank goodness. Tackles then were atrocious.

If you tried to play football, they would just try and cripple you. I suspect your memory is going Den, though to be fair, 70s was about 40 years ago.

If football was played in that style now, it wouldn't be worth watching.

Next you will be telling me you miss all the other attitudes at the time, that were deemed "acceptable". UK gold has some repeats, if you are nostalgic for the old days.

Oh dear my dear chap you seem to have forgotten about the entertainers and characters of the 70's and the fact supporters could go and see British players before they became as rare as the dodo.

Yes l am quite worried about my memory going but l still think there is life in the old dog yet before he goes out to grass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0-HwwJA3qA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-h42NGCnug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvfDMTa_sMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sasZW-S5C8