Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association

Originally Posted by Gary L

But it keeps the non smoking hippies happy.

And gives moaning Minnie's something to whinge about - win/win...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Gary L

It's ok saying all this. and adding more and more rules and such.
but you have to remember that the only people who can enforce this is the police.

are the children safe because you assume the police will have it covered?
no. because we have no police as it is. and they can't stop the mobile phone thing either.

if they're going to do it. then do it properly.
make smoking around children in the home illegal too.
unless you can do that. then you're not really doing it for the children.
you're letting a lot of children down.

now you're supposed to say "how are they going to police it?"

If they allowed society to turn against each other. then we could beat an offender up if we caught them using a mobile phone. smoking in a car with children. smoking around children in the home. not going to work everyday like everybody else.

there's no point grassing someone up who was smoking around children. by the time the police come out to them it's long since happened.

Physically abusing your child is illegal, yet I'm sure plenty of it goes on at home behind closed doors.

But you wouldn't abuse a child in public, or in a car with clear windows, for example. Or you'd be arrested.

Same principle applies.

[Hom3r]

They can't stop people using mobile phones while driving so this stands no chance.

I definitely think smoking around children is bad and causes damage to an innocent. Adults can make an informed choice as to whether they travel in a smokers car the children of a smoker does not have the same chance. So ban smoking round children instead

[Ramrod]

On one hand I'm happy with this idea as anyone who smokes near children in an enclosed space is a moron/needs taking round the back & given a kicking. On the other hand, this proposal has 'nanny state' stamped all over it & I'm opposed to that as well.

[Gary L]

It is a nanny state.
as has been said. it's illegal to beat your kids. (even if they're not yours!)

common sense and violence are different things. to make stupidity illegal is when you know it's going too far. and we'll be sorry soon. when we don't wear the right colour clothes they told us to wear on Wednesdays.

Oh, the irony of that last post.....

Not an issue for us..No one smokes in our car.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Oh, the irony of that last post.....

Have you said anything sensible yet?

[weenie]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I definitely think smoking around children is bad and causes damage to an innocent. Adults can make an informed choice as to whether they travel in a smokers car the children of a smoker does not have the same chance. So ban smoking round children instead

Well said ..

[Taf]

It'll become law, then the law will be extended to "no smoking in any vehicle", "no smoking in any enclosed space" (including your own home). It's already been extended to "no smoking in hospital/educational buildings or grounds", "no smoking in parks", and I've even seen "no smoking outside with X metres or doors, windows or communal areas".

The non-smokers just want no smoking anywhere.

[Jimmy-J]

I think banning things should be banned.

Seriously, if smoking is that toxic, and I think we all know it is, it shouldn't just be banned here and there, it should be banned everywhere.

very few more selfish than a smoker. It is my right to smoke well what about my right not to? I do think smoking in public areas should be banned

I remember one day me and my daughter were sat in town on a bench eating our lunch when this guy come and sat next to use while we were eating and went to spark up. I asked him to wait till we finished our food and he went well stroppy

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Taf

It'll become law, then the law will be extended to "no smoking in any vehicle", "no smoking in any enclosed space" (including your own home). It's already been extended to "no smoking in hospital/educational buildings or grounds", "no smoking in parks", and I've even seen "no smoking outside with X metres or doors, windows or communal areas".

The non-smokers just want no smoking anywhere.

It will be extended to everywhere. everywhere where they can make money out of you by fining you for it.

a lot of these 'no smoking' conditions such as in parks and certain distances, are not enforceable. they're just requests. hoping that you will comply.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J

I think banning things should be banned.

Seriously, if smoking is that toxic, and I think we all know it is, it shouldn't just be banned here and there, it should be banned everywhere.

First place to start, is shops.
if they won't do that. then don't take them seriously.

[Jimmy-J]

Turning stroppy is normal for addicts who are denied their fix.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

First place to start, is shops.
if they won't do that. then don't take them seriously.

True, what's the point of changing the packaging and hiding them behind shutters? Just ban them altogether.